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2/21-
MONDAY
11:11 PM the previous night.
Letter I sent to the Shelly Savoie imitator:
Brent"study36"FinalWarning"KoivV — Today at 10:59 PM
Tell your Sister that I tried my hardest not to think about her all day today then at night, after tempting me, Junk_Bow came to my door and I knew he was disguised as Maggie. I know that she can also disguise herself as Brent because she is a bisex u al demon Leviathanseed. When your sister and
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I were in high school Junk_bow gave me a note I thought was from Mags
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About LBGTQ
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And tell her to not let any man in her house purporting to be me
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It's not me, I'm in Oak Grove trying to sleep
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In my apartment
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Goodnight, she will be in my prayers
I got out the Children's Storybook Keep My Commandments by Beryl Immer and for each page, the covers, and the spine I prayed for God to send his Angels to protect Maggie Savoie from Junk_Bow, and other prayers.
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02/22-
TUESDAY
3:54 AM
Last night I called Joseph Prince Ministries and gave them a Praise Report.
Tonight I had a dream where I had been missing for 4 years and when I came back, Rene, Dad, Colt, a resurrected Jo, and others all lived in a big building and I had to go around collecting my clothes from the gymnasium and around the building. Colt had been wearing my shirt since I disappeared. I had some crosses. I had married Maggie in the Spring of 2020-something and I called her and left her a message before handing the phone back to Rene.
Today I go see Dr. Wentz, and Taylor Brady will pick me up to go see her soon.
I need to unify and God needs to purify my mind, spirit and purpose.
1:00 PM
Today I saw Dr. Wentz and she prescribed the same meds as before, no change, after I was evaluated by her and the nurse. I'm at around 170 lbs, a healthy weight and have a healthy blood pressure.
Dr. Traci Wentz is retiring, meaning that on April 19, 2022, I will be seeing a new Psych Dr., possibly at the other building. I trusted Dr. Wentz. O God please let the new psych Dr. be a Believer who doesn't demand that I get the Eyetest like Dr. Reddy did. Amen. O God please do not let them send me back to Dr. Reddy. Amen.
As long as Taylor Brady is involved and we can finally get the ball rolling with BFMA, and as long as God is sovereign, I am confident that no matter what happens, I will be able to meet my goal eventually of financial independence, but I have to admit the sudden retirement of Dr Wentz MSN, PMHNP-Board Certified for no apparent reason,especially when she said she was "irreplaceable" and had "no plans for retirement, just to sit on the couch" is disturbing to me, and should be. I hope that whoever replaces Trustworthy Traci is her (or him) self also trustworthy. Amen.
Taylor Brady said Mary from BFMA finally got a hold of her by phone, apologized for the long delay and sent her the necessary paperwork.
Taylor got me pizza and Dr. Pepper from a Casey's store after the appointment. I thanked God for it before eating it, and thanked Taylor.
I encouraged Taylor to keep a Diary today, saying there was a lot of knowledge you had gained that she could share with the world.
Junk_bow kept at me all night long, giving me a very disturbing nightmare I barely escaped from. Not only is Junk_bow a demon and a shapeshifter, she/he/it is a dragon, a vampire and a dream demon.
Taylor and I talked about her past relationship history today, which I partly guessed by how she reacted to certain songs on the radio, which led me to bring up Maggie.
"There is one higher", I said. "Although no girl in my estimation compares to Maggie, no god in my estimation compares to God."
I told Taylor that I wasn't sure whether Maggie's eyes were brown or blue.
During our last appointment, I started showing Taylor Episode I The Phantom Menace and asked what she thought of it and she said it was boring and Star Wars was confusing to her and she hadn't had time to do any research about it, and that she wasn't interested in Star Wars.
Today I told Taylor that I had showed Star Wars to her all out of order and if I were to show it to her in order and in context that it wouldn't seem confusing to her.
My next appointment with Taylor Brady is on Wednesday, March 2, 2022 AD, the day my Chrome Book is due if I cannot renew it. My appointment is here at my apartment @ 11:00 AM.
My next appointment with a new Psych Dr. is April 19 @ Noon.
5:21 PM CDT I made the final copy of my Script Star Wars Episode 12: Rise of The Jedi several minutes ago before I started supper and backed the whole up to a flash drive.
I will be editing Rose Tico into Star Wars Episodes 13-18. I will have to make her character progress and give her and her husband Finn children, and do something with them. The scripts are a little too short as they now stand, and could use some more scenes. I'm up for the challenge. That's what I will be doing most of today, and if I'm up to it and if there's time, will be typing much more of Star Wars Episode 17 for public view.
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02/24-
THURSDAY
I had thought again that I had run into major complexities in doing my taxes but Joy told me not to worry because all the information that I thought I had to provide Joy assured me they already have and all that information was only for new customers of the tax place.
I told them I didn't know if I was married or single but told them I would just file as a single person until I knew and they said that was alright.
It will likely be several or a few days before I get my taxes turned in.
Boy I'm glad there are still a few years until the next census!
I went to bed at 8 something o' clock last night, and faced all my major fears in my dreams all night.
A lot of snow came in around 6AM last night. I went to church last night. Colt was at work during church. I have 4.00 now that people just gave me.
My apartment is still clean, and I brush and floss much more often than I was. I ate hamburgers for supper tonight, although it was lunchtime, I'm much too full to eat supper. I had Arizona green tea. Father forgive me and take the curse off me if that had Senamyx, in Christ's Name, Amen. I forgot to think, now does it, what company makes it. I think, CocaCola? No, I looked on the bottle, Arizona company does. But I didn't ask God, or do research. Forgive me, Father, if it did. Amen.
5:29 PM I'm about to take a warm shower. I just feel like taking one, so I will. I did not end up doing all those things I planned on doing many days that I wrote many plans for doing this and that in my journal.
7:42 PM CDT My shower was awesome. I had a long nap afterwards. I think I'll see about writing Rose Tico and her and Finn's children into Star Wars 13-15 tonight after I take my pills and Centrum Men's multivitamin.
I'll probably eat a good supper, but what? I'll figure something out, just don't want to spend money on it.
Colt didn't visit today.
I had a can of sea salt and Sliced Potatoes for supper. Very yummy!
Now I will work on Episode 13. Still need to get those ages of Luke and Sarah right. Star Wars 10-12 would have to take place exactly 6 years before Episode 13.
8:56 PM CDT Where God's will is, there is a way. And I found the way to get Luke and Sarah the correct ages, but now I have to write Rose and Finn's children into Star Wars Episodes 10-12, NOT just 13-17.
9:05 PM Ok, now I've got it established that Rose and Finn had been dating off and on while Finn was busy fighting Imperial Remnants and so was Rose for ten years and for nine years Ben had been serving out a prison term. So Rose and Finn don't marry til at least the end of Episode 11.
9:07 PM Ok, now that I have the foundations laid so things make much more sense, I can easily write Rose and her offspring's characters into Star Wars Episodes 13-15, which I'll start possibly tomorrow.
10:12 PM I am now laboring in preparing TPM HV for posting to YouTube, or what we have of it so far. I am also posting the first two thirds of AOTC HV tonight.
11:47 PM The Phantom Menace Humorous Version is just about finished being autoread on my stream by text to speech read aloud bot then I need to give credit to the Original TPM HV Authors that I can remember, then I'll go to AOTC HV and broadcast it.
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02/25-
FRIDAY
I had a heart to heart with my heart, then a heart to heart with Jesus upon my bed and watched Lois Vogel-Sharp.
Aside from my entertainment, the people I talk to and the books I read, I need to limit myself to five gospel and motivation influencers on YouTube that speak into my life, NOT five of each.
Michael Hur
Lois Vogel-Sharp
Kat Kerr
Zig Zeiglar
Justen Faull
Only these indefinitely, unless God says otherwise.
Get back into the Scriptures.
Keep asking The Holy Spirit to help me to grasp the simplicity and power of the Cross and the Gospel, and not to try to understand them intellectually, and how to call upon the Name of the LORD.
I was listening to so many people teach me so many lies that I didn't know the truth, which makes one free, not just sets. If you open a cage door, the bird doesn't want to leave the cage, though the door is wide open, but if you take the bird out and toss it into the air it is made free. That's what the truth does..I was trying to justify myself with performance, or correct belief, or struggle, or trying harder.
The five do not include education, instruction, family or political speeches, Scriptures or anything to do with the Restoration. These are all free. It is 5:03 AM, and Casey's has just opened, so I will go get an X-Tra Large Dr. Pepper.
5:40 AM CDT Earlier this morning I cleared my entire YouTube watch history and Started Over with it there, pruning it so it could bear more fruit, and looked up Samuel Goald and Joseph F. Smith Testimony concerning the plates given to Mauricio in Brazil, then put it on Justen Faull and Genesis and it started on the KJ passage concerning the Rainbow in the Noachide Covenant. I wept.
I went to Casey's and got myself a xtra lg dr pepper and a large slice of bacon breakfast pizza. Now Faull and Acts are playing. Acts is exciting. I am not paying attention to Faull because its lower an I cannot make out what it is saying from where I am at my dining area table drinking my pop and typing on the ChromeBook. The pizza was Delish!
5:56 AM Actually, Autoplay went from Faull to History's Very Interesting program America Unearthed, where Archaologists are trying to piece the puzzles of History, side by side with the window I am now sitting cross-legged on my bed typing in and listening to Bible Radio on on my laptop.
Right now, The Jerusalem Conference is going on in Acts.
A couple nights before tonight, Christ himself baptized me in Dreamland, saying, that let all demons in hell know that he baptizes me, etc, and I was also confirmed.
This morning I was converted, fully. I finally heard Jesus' heart. I still need to Truly Call Upon The Name Of The LORD.
Words of Moroni 1:11-17
The Shroud of Turin, Ian Wilson, pp. vii-ix, Table of Contents
I made a YT Watch History Playlist, and am listening to the Pauline Epistles, starting in Romans, now in I Corinthians.
I still need to read 'Shroud of Turin' Introduction and Chapter One today and finish 'God's Secretaries' Chapter One and listen to Disc 10 of 'Catalyst: A Rogue One Story' today, which things I have all day to do.
An America Unearthed Video proving Jeremiah came to America with the Mulekites, an Egyptian Princess and an ark, but not the ark of the Covenant, as Book of Mormon scholars have at least partially concluded, was on, and now an Egyptian Treasure in the Grand Canyon America Unearthed video is on. The first one was about Obelisks and the Stars.
Part of a conversation between myself and SW Santa today:
Brent"study36"FinalWarning"KoivV — Today at 7:48 AM
So I hear you went ahead and got a Patreon (thank you, I got the playlist made now ) How do you like it? Would you reccomend it?
Star Wars Santa — Today at 8:12 AM
I'm still not much of a fan of Patreon, but I was talked into starting it.
Brent"study36"FinalWarning"KoivV — Today at 8:52 AM
by Meg!
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well, hope it works out for you
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You dont have to worry about copyright claims
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on it
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I'm listening to Mozart, reading Shroud of Turin's introduction and watching maths videos
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its fun, i'm comfy on my loveseat
Brent"study36"FinalWarning"KoivV — Today at 9:16 AM
I'm also listening to the Pauline Epistles
Brent"study36"FinalWarning"KoivV — Today at 9:26 AM
I downloaded a free ebook on company culture
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It just popped up; I'm saving it to my flashdrive now
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Great! I can read it right on the ChromeBook I'm renting with the aid of my flashdrive!
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I am so getting my own ChromeBook! These things are so nifty and neat!
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And a SSB External Drive for my laptop
Earlier I got five of my dishes done. Now they are drying in my dish drainer.
Internet Writings, conversations and exerpts from lost journals, texts, etc.
Brent: What I admire about J.J.Abrams is that when he set out to make The Force Awakens, he didn't try to make Star Wars into LOST or Star Trek, but was completely true to the mythos and feel of a Star Wars movie, as grungy, humorous, lived-in and whimsical as anything from Episodes I-VI.-Monday, 6/14/2021 2:08:55 CDT
Brent: The reason that the whole of the last jedi was the empire pursuing one rebel fleet was simply because that in the Force Awakens which happened immediately before tlj, with no time passage at all between the two films, had just lost their entire seat of government and base of support to the starkiller base-hosnian prime system, and the last rebel fleet was all they had left, making tlj an incredible story of survival, with ultra high stakes.
Monday, 6/14/2021 2:38:55 CDT
timmoishere said: ↑
I’m sorry, but if your best evidence that a resurrection occurred is “a bunch of people believed it,” that’s not good enough. There needs to be actual legitimate evidence in order to accept that claim as true. All you have are stories, and stories by themselves are not enough.
Lordban said
Ancient history in general suffers from not possibly escaping reliance on "stories", often written decades or a few centuries later. Without using such accounts, there would be enormous holes in our knowledge of history. And of course, there is often further uncertainty because the original texts did not make it through the millennia and what we have is a copy, which may or may not have been edited, and an additional difficulty comes in the form of ancient translations, for which it's also not possible to know for certain edition hasn't been made in some way. And the deliberate reporting of inaccurate facts is nowadays known to be as old as Ramses II.
So yes, in the end, for a large part of what we know of ancient history, we are never going to get past "a bunch of people believed it".
Sometimes, we even have to rely on "this person said it", because the scarcity of sources means we're probably never going to get corroboration.
For an example, the notion Phenicians had already knowledge of the Cape of Good Hope was initially based on a single, ca. 600BC account of how the sailors reported the position of the sun at the far end of an attempt to navigate around "Libya" ("Africa" was not used to name the continent back then). But because that account is consistent with what the sailors would have witnessed, and a forgery of the text's details would have required knowledge that the Earth is round - which was not known at the time of the writing of the account - we have reason enough to believe it is legitimate testimony and it is likely some Phenicians did manage to sail past the Cape of Good Hope.
But it's not physical evidence, and we probably aren't ever going to get evidence that it happened. Thus, in the end, why a decision has to be made whether to accept that claim as true despite the evidence at the time of discovery of this being literally one story. It's as good evidence as you are ever going to get.
To trace all the way back to religion, you aren't going to find much in the way of physical evidence either, even as to whether the religion started when it says it does. And even when you do find more recent physical evidence, dating it accurately is problematic.
To give an early medieval example, the Birmingham Quran manuscript, one of the oldest fragment of the Quran in existence, has been carbon-dated between 568AD and 645AD, while the Sanaa Palimpsest (for its lower-text part) has been carbon-dated between 578AD and 669AD. In both cases, the interval is given with an 95% confidence that the entire interval is the correct one. Both still cover decades before Muhammad's companions are supposed to have written in (610AD until 632AD) and, of course, long spans both before and after Hijra (622AD).
We therefore can't escape falling back on contemporary writings retelling when the Quran was first written, because the physical evidence simply isn't good enough and/or our means of dating it aren't accurate enough.
Long story short, often, in ancient history, "a bunch of people believed it" is as good evidence as you are going to get, whether it applies to religion or not. Which brings us back to a decision we have to make about ancient history in general: for most of what we know, it's up to you, as an individual, to decide whether you believe its accounts or not. Granted, it takes much less of a leap of faith to believe you know Caesar's last words ("Ista quidem vis est!", according to Suetonius) than to believe Jesus of Nazareth went walkabout after his death. But in either case, it is all but certain you are never going to get actual legitimate evidence. The account of what others believed is as good as you are going to get.
'I am not a good man. And I'm not a bad man either. I'm not a hero. You know who I am? I am an idiot. Passing through. Helping out. Learning.' -- The Doctor
'Mankind has only one science. It is the science of discontent.' -- Count Hasimir Fenring
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timmoishere: 1. New
I never “chose” to not believe. And my mind and heart are not closed. Please stop being dishonest.
If you had evidence that your beliefs were true, you would have presented it already. Instead, all you’ve done is present excuses, weak arguments, and easily debunked claims. That’s not how you convince anyone.
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
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study3600 said: (Brent ↑
And all that did not convince you because you chose not to believe the evidence, closing your mind and heart when the evidence stared you right in the face and people conspire to cover up truth all the time just look at nazi germany its the same in america its the world system. You dont believe because you are the ones indoctrinated into unbelief and i am the one and the believers on here whose minds are truly free.
timmoishere: You haven't presented any evidence. (Actually, I had presented PLENTY of evidence and continued to do so but he refused to view it or read it because it was not "peer reviewed" by fellow atheists and agnostics-BLS) You keep making this claim without backing it up.
And there's no indoctrination (lie-BLS), we've actively asked for this alleged reputable archaeological evidence exists (which I gave the sources, or references to where they could be found, yet he still claimed I hadn't-BLS), but you've never provided any evidence that you claimed existed. You have, however, brought up things like the the shoud of Turin, which does have scientific evidence about its origin, which places it to be from the middle ages, several hundred years younger than it is supposed to be (actually untrue, See The Shroud of Turin by Ian Wilson-BLS).
Your mind isn't 'free', as you seem unable to apply a consistent approach to assess new information. You have an approach to preserve the information that you have chosen as true (No, that I KNOW is true, rejecting what I KNOW is false-BLS (And saying I don't know if I don't know, and finding out either from books, Scriptures, the Internet, others or God so I'm not ignorant if I do not know (and evaluating what they (except Scriptures or God) tell me by Scriptures and what I know and by spiritual discernment, unbiased confirmation, and revelation-BLS), here a little, there a little-BLS), and reject information you have chosen as not true.
study3600 said: ↑
False religion and atheism is the opiate of the masses (ok i'll include agnosticism too, wouldnt want to leave you out) and True Religion is Liberty and true independent thought. Your only as free as your mind is. Its hard to rein in or control one whose mind is free. The deepest dankest prison to him becomes heaven. And a cage is a cage to everyone no matter how big a cage it is.
Lowbacca: Your mind isn't free, and there is zero that you have provided that could be used to separate out the 'true religions' from the 'false religions', so from all available evidence, you are entirely incapable of determining what is true using your methods since they are just about reinforcing your conclusions.
Lowbacca: While we have entertained the idea that you might be able to present evidence, you have been unable to consider how you could present the evidence you claimed existed. That alone highlights who is exhibiting a free mind and who isn't.
(Similarly, I know people who are religious who can view that as a faith-based decision and see why those expecting a sort of evidence do not reach the same conclusions, but that is different from what you are doing, claiming that there is clear evidence, then failing to provide it. repeatedly. and shifting the discussion to as many things as you can think of because every one of your claims is extremely threadbare and doesn't have the solid evidence you claim exists)
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Brent: 3. Uh, timmoishere, read Lordban's post. We choose what evidence to and not to be convinced by. If we choose not to believe true evidence that is called closing your mind. If you choose not to believe what your heart is telling you is the truth that is called closing one's heart.
No, no I protect the beliefs in have which are true and reject all false evidence while at the same time assimilating all new knowledge and information that is true. This is called cognitive resonance. Most of you protect your false beliefs unbelief doubt incredulity and biases and false traditions as well as what you believe and know to be true, and shut out all evidence and information to the contrary even if it is true information and evidence. This is called cognitive dissonance. The Bahir man (Jedi Merkurian, the man of the Baha'i faith-B.L.S.K.)(The Bahir is a book of the Kabbalah, NOT the Baha'i faith) has a bias that I know God is a ludicrous concept so anyone who proves or relates to them that you can know God or that I know God or that God is even remotely knowable because his ba'hai (Baha'i) texts tell him God is unknowable then his cognitive dissonance protecting the bias and tradition he learned studying the Bahir (Baha'i texts) and practicing his ba'hai (Baha'i) faith prevents him from believing anyone who claims they know God. This is the case with all belief claims and knowledge and with all people in this world.
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There are two ways to be deceived: One is to believe what is not true and the other is to refuse to believe what is true - Soren Kierkegaard
Brent:I like the Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker the best, depending on which one I'm viewing at the time. I like Revenge of the Sith more than The Force Awakens and TFA more than RoTJ, RoTJ more than TESB TESB more than Clones, CLONES more than ANH and ANH more than TPM. And I love TPM.
For less complication, I'm only ranking the 9 films of the Skywalker Saga.
1 or 2 I like the Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker the best, depending on which one I'm viewing at the time. Love Ben's character, seeing him and Rey conflicted, Ben Redeemed, water symbology, loved stylistically stunning visuals, horseback riding, seafaring, crystal foxes, nuns and porgs, green milk, D.J, Casino Royale, Hyperspace Skipping, Ben/Hux rivalry, Ren slamming a general into the ceiling, Snoke/Ben/Rey/Praetorian Guard Throneroom Fight, Just about everything Poe did and said in those two films, Finn facing off with Phasma, Palpatine attempting self sacrifice for his nefarious ends, New Force Abilities shown not just implied like Jedi Healing and Connection and object grabbing from a distance, and Projection of your essence from a distant planet to make someone think your there, All Walkers firing on Luke, Han visiting Ben, Luke raising the X-Wing, Yoda visiting Luke, and so much more. And Lando. And Rose. Finn's heroism willingness to sacrifice his life for the resistance cause.
3 Revenge of The Sith. What don't I like about this film? Spectacular opening space battle, the most fast and furious lightsaber battle of the franchise at the end between anakin and obi-wan, we get to see Anakin's transition to Vader, Tragedy done so well, General Grievous is just cool, can't get enough of the 'its treason then ' spin and take three Jedi Masters out in 5 seconds scene, Order 66 done so well and explains so much, Padme buried with Japor Snippet, and so much more.
4 The Force Awakens. Right from the amazingly cool opening scene there is SO much to like about this film! Chewie We're home, It's true all of it the Force the Jedi everything scene, BB-8 is so neat, Ren such a good villain, torch passes to new generation, flamethrower, Poe (need I say more?) Rey and Finn's friendship, Han and Leia didn't "just live happily ever after" like they did in the EU, and that Resistance theme music! Wow! Plus everything feels as grungy and lived in as it does in the PT and OT.
5 Return of the Jedi. My favorite of the OT. Love Vader's Redemption, Emporer's first death, "Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battlestation. You may fire at will commander" "That blast came from the death star", "our cruisers cant repel firepower of that magnitude", etc Jabba the Hutt's max rebo band Special Edition Doo Mee Wang" music gets me every time, love Jabba, Jabba's death so satisfying, love Ewok/ Empire asymmetrical warfare, etc, etc, etc
6 The Empire Strikes Back. The Movie that got me back being interested in Star Wars again, love the cliffhanger ending, Boba Fett, Lobot, Lando, Cloud City, Yoda the MAN, Force training on Dagobah, finding lost Luke in the snow, the Battle of Hoth, Han/Leia romance, C-3PO is the funniest he ever is in any movie in this one, (with the exception of maybe the rise of skywalker (bobba frick is my oldest friend ROTFL!)
7.I loved Attack of the Clones so much I saw it three times at the movies and watch it twice in a row one day when I owned it on VHS.
I love nearly EVERYTHING about Clones from the static clean hallways of the Kaminoans to Dex to the beautiful Jedi Archives and Jocosta Nu's refusal to believe the archives could possibly be missing any records, to the arena scene, to Jango fett's scenes, to Mace and Obi-Wan fighting back to back, to Anakin's and Padme's forbidden romance, to Yoda and Dooku's duel, to Palpatine's Machiavellian political maneuverings, one of the things i like about TPM as well.
8. A New Hope. A hands down classic, vI love the cantina scene, Han Solo, The Death Star run and trash compactor scene, Obi-Wan in his golden years, Luke starting his heroes journey as a whiny farmboy, , the Battle of Yavin 4, the beauty of Yavin 4, Princess Leia a strong female character, the droids Artoo and Threepio, and just about everything else about the film.
9.I love TPM. I love Jar Jar Binks. I love how stunning the TPM visuals are, love Duel of the Fates Music and battle of Naboo, especially the Maul/Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan duel, love TPM opening scenes as some of the best opening scenes in the franchise, love PODRACING, BABY! Love origin story of Anakin, love Padme's subterfuge.
So there you have it, my ranking. I love them all. But thats the order in which I have come to currently like them.
Paula Miller: Tue 11:01 PM
Great ok now what makes you understand we are in tribulations?
Brent Sohlden Koivopolo V: All the signs. If you want ill enumerate the ones I and many others are aware of including everyone in the church I am about to join and many protestants baptists evangelicals Utah Mormons pentecostal and many other sects.
Paula: Yeah ok
Brent: 1 Obama has showed just about every biblical sign that he is the Beast
2 ww1 was the first trumpet
3 ww2 the second
4 chernobyl the 4
5 still being fulfilled but partially fulfilled during gulf War but the locusts thr actual ones will come (horseflies-BLS)
6 partially fulfilled with ISIS
Sorry chernobyl the 3, time speeding up with no and Berlin wall 4. Gulf War 5, is is 6
Isis 6
8 the (eyetest catalyst-BLS) is another sign of the trib
Paula:I believe what George Njeim and his book wrote
Brent: 9 the (eyetest-BLS) is a form of the mark
10 earthquakes in divers places
Paula: That’s in Matthew 24
Brent: Even more intensified than anything we have before seen
Paula: Like I said I believe George Njeim
Brent: Tornadoes on the equator
Brent: It is as it was in the days of Noah, giants, hybrids, etc
Brent: Then go ahead and believe it all came to pass in the dark ages like most of the RLDS and live with your eyes shut
Brent: Even the church fathers and Joseph Smith Jr taught the beast is a man not a kingdom or system
Paula: Njeim doesn’t believe that
Anything you here from LDS theology is open for interpretation
Brent: You told me several years ago that he does
Paula: Where did you get that JSJR taught that ?
Brent: And I told you the LDS is only one of the many many Christian sects who know we are in the tribulation
Brent: I read it in his sermons myself
Brent: And I also read it in the church fathers of the first and second century
Paula: I didn’t
Paula: We are not in tribulation
Brent: Ok if we're not in the tribulation then we'll never be. It will always be a future or past event
After all prophecy never talks about the present just the future and the past
Paula: I’m going to bed Goodnight read your doctrine & covenants
Brent: I did
Paula: I read and believe more of it than you do
Good night
Paula: Wed 8:00 AM
You are a very judgmental person Brent
Paula: Wed 8:20 AM
The Book of Revelation is read starting with the early Christians chronologically so then it’s through the Dark Ages, the Medieval Times on to the eternity,
The Angel came at the conclusion of the period of the Apostasy 1260 years or the 42 months mentioned in the 12th and 13th chapters. The vision that was given to Nephi was given in a systematic chronological order.
Brent: Wed 10:27 AM
I know that Paula and you mistake tough love with judgmematllism
It also talks about what is going on now in addition to all that
There is the law of double and even triple reference in biblical interpretation Paula
I'm going to Walmart to get some soda dr pepper
Paula: You are judging RLDS priesthood that is not tough love
Brother Njeim understood the type and shadow reference of the Bible however he used the Fullness of the Gospel when studying Revelation. I choose to believe Brother Njeim.
Brent: Wed 4:14 PM
Over Joseph Smith himself? God is the one judging the traditionalist priesthood I'm just telling you the truth
When men preach opinion and their traditions and put that for the word of God the bom calls that priest craft dear
Paula: Um they are not
Brent: They are if they contradict the church fathers and Joseph smith
Paula: You definitely do have it correct but keep working on it
Brent: Thats two witnesses
Paula: They are not
I believe the course Njeim took
Brent: God taught Joseph Smith that the beast was a man not a kingdom or a system and he preached it giving a very good illustration and the fathers specifically said that the antichrist would be a jew and rule the word. A kingdom or a system cannot be a jew
Brent: Plus I have a third witness my cousin Nephi's testimony which was a complete chiasm about his destiny to fight the armies of the world ruler the man the antichrist
In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established
You only need two. I have three
Paula: What in tarnation are you talking about? Pilgrim?
How do you know that God taught Joseph Smith Jr that?
Brent: Because I read his sermon
Paula:Why do you keep assuming I know nothing?
Where
Brent: I know you have a lot of knowledge but you are wrong about this because three credible witnesses Trump njeim
Brent: It is writted
Paula: Where did you read JSJR sermon?
Brent: Look for it yourself. They took the website down so you'll have to read it in Joseph's insufferably sloppy handscrawl in the Joseph Smith papers because they refuse to publish a plain text version of it the only one they had published they took down but I had it printed out but I lost it because Joy convinced me I needed to get rid of js writing s because she mistakenly believed God told her I worshipped Joseph Smith. I regret giving away his sermons letters and journals and now she want me to help her find it and I can't quote it anymore O Lord what a terrible burden is knowledge!
Paula: Who took the web site down?
Brent: The mormons
They like to suppress knowledge
And it was a credible source those were Joseph's actual words
And even without them we still have the church fathers and nephis testimony we still have two witnesses
Go ahead and stay ignorant and believe everything that comes from the Mormons is no good because I know that's what I am outgoing you to say
Paula: Oh then I for sure don’t sgree
Brent: We still have two witnesses
Without josephs
Paula: Njeim interpreted the Bible without precedents of Smith or the fathers
Brent: He went before the lord
Brent: Ran
Brent: Joy always says went
Brent: She means ran
Brent: He interpreted based on rlds tradition rather than what has gone before for precedent
Brent: Sorry to burst your little bubble
Paula: Njeim was a great man and you are not bursting a bubble
Paula: I happen to agree with his review
Brent: There may have been a lot of truth in his writings but he was wrong in his assertion that the entire book of rev was fulfilled in the middle ages
Paula: No he interpreted based on the Book of Mormon
Brent: No he was not wrong
Brent: You are denying the truth
Paula: So what
Brent: Just like you always do
Paula: You are caught up in your own truth
Brent: Why do you idolize njeim
Paula: Brent I’m blocking you
That’s enough
Brent: If every verse in the Bible contradicted njeim you would still choose njeim
Brent: Ok timmoishere. What kind of evidence do you require? Belief comes before evidence. You believed the chair would hold you up before you sat in it and it did. you believed the stove was hot because your mother said so but you didnt know until you touched it.
All the operations of the human mind and body are the result of faith.
The Shroud of Turin, Ian Wilson, pp. 1-2
Words of Moroni 1:18-19
Me to Star Wars Santa today:
I should also get a Texas Instruments Scientific Calculator and a Digital Camcorder.
And a graphing compass and a protractor and a lot of graph paper
And a Guitar.
And a harp.
I'm beyond what I have the capacity to learn at this time in learning math its just numbers letters and symbols to me at this point.
I'm going to call Joy, find out if she's printed up my Utility Bill for tax info, see if she can give me allowance and then take that allowance, pay my 14.00 or so fine, then take the rest of my money, go to the bookstore and buy a good comprehensive math book that I can study. Tameeka Newell told me to study math books, and so did Mom after she had been in the afterlife, and God has led me to do maths and practice it my whole life and the IEP people held me back from advancement in it even though my Algebra teacher Mr. Lovejoy (God rest his soul) recommended me for Geometry, but the IEP people whom dad and I both knew were liars, forbid me to take that or world religion, saying I'd be intolerant, but they did not know me. At Joy's the first time I lived there, I learned math off an educational TV channel, in Michigan the first time I lived there, my Dad taught me how to solve basic circuit equations for electronics, and I watched a movie about a child mathemetician prodigy as a kid and I also watched another, musical one like that as an adult, "Like stars On Earth". I have always liked maths, and I have used the excuse "I like maths, I'm just not good at it" long ENOUGH! I checked some math books out of the library in michigan the second time I lived there but Buster my dog chewed them or it up, because I neglected it or them. He often would chew up things, especially if I neglected them.
I'm not baptized and confirmed yet, only in my dreams, but I hope I will be soon.
4:33 PM CDT Me to Star Wars Santa today:
Ok, I'm taking back ALL my library books save three and keeping out my Chrome Book. I paid my fine. Joy, Cecil and I had a talk. Joy says I'll figure it out. It was about what Jesus told me last night. I'm trying to understand the Gospel and the Cross intellectually instead of the simplicity of it and I was going overboard in reading books and finding too much knowledge without wisdom. I wasn't even READING my library books. They gave me a feeling of intellectual pride. Joy says I need to get self out of the way. After paying my fine I walked home from the library confident that I had not been sufficiently humble in my heart. O Lord forgive me of my pride! Amen. Pastor Pete may be giving me a ride up to the library to drop off most of those library books and then Colt and I can walk up to the bookstore which closes at 6PM so he can look around and I can buy a 4.50 or so dollar math book with the change from my fine. I prayed for the best math book that amount could buy (used books).
Some people believe that there's not just one truth; no one's right or wrong; that there are truths and falsehoods on both sides. That nothing is really true; that it's all from our own point of view; that there are no facts; only beliefs and opinion. This is all a lie. There is only one Absolute Truth, and all who follow the Truth follow Christ, for He Is the Spirit of Truth. There are, however, differences of perception, reality and perspective, and sometimes heroes on all sides of a human conflict, and there are many sides to truth, which is cubical, and two sides to every story. These two do NOT amount to the same thing. There is only One Truth and He is also Love, Life, Light and the Way, to paraphase some of the Scriptures. Truth is knowledge of things as they are, as they were and as they are to come and whatsoever is more or less than this comes of evil. All the world is lies and deception. Many are deceived by false information. We all need to pray daily for spiritual discernment, and to try the spirits, and to check things out by what the Word of God says, and what he reveals.
Star Wars Santa — Today at 4:33 PM
Can you not find something online that's free?
[4:35 PM]
Have you tried Khan Academy? I've used it. It's got practice exercises and fantastic teachers.
(SW Santa gave me a link to Khan University)
Brent: I'll have to take a look at that but God commanded me to study math books
[4:48 PM]
And I could occupy a lot of my time with Khan; it and Hillsdale would keep me out of trouble. Thanks
I got Mathematics: A Practical Odyssey Fifth Edition. The book dealer sold it to me for five bucks and a nickel: 796 pp+Guide to Using A Scientific Calculator, 6 other Appendices and Index and two Geometric designs in the inside back cover and flyleaf.
6:07 PM Perhaps Pastor Pete will take me to the library to drop off my books tomorrow.
Catalyst: A Rogue One Novel, James Luceno, Disc 10
The Force Awakens, Alan Dean Foster, the first 35 Minutes
The Testimony of Mark
The Beginning of The Testimony of Luke
I took a good shower. Last night, I brushed and flossed my teeth. It is 7:25 PM.
I tried joining Truth Social today, Trump's new Social Media platform, but for now it's only available in the Apple App Store for the iPhone. Soon it will be available on Google Play.
Offline
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4:00 PM O! My feet can BREATHE again! I just took my shoes off after doing an awful lot of walking all day since around 11 AM.
Joy and Cecil and I went out to PTs after I walked up there from making a 3 PM appointment at the barbershop, which I had walked to, and we talked at the restaurant about important things, then we went to WalMart where I got Depakote (their Risperidone is out of stock, but I have some for now, so I'm good for now), three jars of Great Value Mayonnaise and three large boxes of GV elbow noodles, then Joy dropped me off at home, I put my groceries away, but I had left my cap, thin grey gloves and heavy jacket in the car, so after I walked back up to the barbershop, Joy met me there to give those things to me, then I got my hair cut, then I walked home, then listened to some of The Force Awakens, then defecated, then walked up to Casey's and got a 2 Liter of 7-up, and walked back home. Along the way up to Casey's, I found an intact pair of glasses that is not my Rx and texted Pastor Pete about the find. Just before settling in with a nice tall glass of 7up, I unvelcroed my shoes and removed them, putting them to the side. I'm comfy now, typing on my ChromeBook. Before I save the changes I will copy this text to my clipboard in case the net connection went idle and out while I was away.
4:14 PM It didn't go out. I have my ChromeBook until the 11'th of March.
Only have three books and a ChromeBook out of the library at a time, plus the audiobooks on the library website you are borrowing, they're free.
Hey, my name is Brent Sohlden on the 100% free to use Social Media Website www.mewe.com .
Part 2 of a Conversation I had in the Theist/Atheist ThunderDome on theforce.net:
Vader's LaMent: 1. There is no Zeus. And for the same reasons I can say there is no god of the Bible or Allah or whatever.
Lordban: Counterpoint: there is a Zeus, there is a God of the Bible and there is an Allah, who all exist at the very least as described and represented. Whether they are Gods or constructs is what is up for debate, but they absolutely exist
'I am not a good man. And I'm not a bad man either. I'm not a hero. You know who I am? I am an idiot. Passing through. Helping out. Learning.' -- The Doctor
'Mankind has only one science. It is the science of discontent.' -- Count Hasimir Fenring
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2. There is no Dana, only Zuul.
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Jedi Merkurian: 3. VadersLaMent said: ↑
There is no Zeus. And for the same reasons I can say there is no god of the Bible or Allah or whatever.
Side note: “Allah” is the Arabic word for “God.” So, for example, Arabic Christians will refer to Allah.
"Know thou that every fixed star hath its own planets, and every planet its own creatures, whose number no man can compute."
-Baha'i Scripture
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(Actually, the true Arabic word for God is Ellah-BLS)
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timmoishere: 4. Good luck convincing a MAGA hat that they worship the same god as those funny desert people.
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions. (That's because his Doubt has been allowed by him to take root and grow-BLS)
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Darth Philosopher: 5. It's debatable (or rather not generally accepted) whether the ancient Greeks, Romans and other pagans actually believed that their gods were literally real in the sense that they could walk up on Mt. Olympus and visit them.
It's generally pretty easy to debate the Protestant Christian conception of god literally being a man in the sky interacting with people on a day to day basis. It's much more difficult (or would require more nuance) to discuss more complicated conceptions of God (such as Spinoza's). (Spinoza was a heretic-BLS)
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study3600: (Brent):
6. Jedi Merkurian said: ↑
study3600 said: ↑
I never said once thaat everything I believed was correct, I only said I believe all true things
Rylo Ken: Do you see how the second half of this statement is in contradiction to the first?
I guess admitting that your mechanism for distinguishing between true and untrue beliefs is fallible, that's a start.
Is there a recognized distinction between really believing something and just taking it on authority without having reviewed all the evidence. There are a lot of things that I just kind of provisionally believe on the basis of something/someone I "believe" to be an authority. Placing trust in a validating authority as a sort of displacement of belief?
For example, I place a sort of generalized, provisional trust in the FDA based on the fact that I haven't died yet from relying on them as an authority. I know for certain that I have not reviewed their work or had it independently verified. And I also know that they are subject to political forces that I don't necessarily trust. Yet, I don't "disbelieve" in their validity as a reliable authority. On the other hand, there seem to be a lot of people these who have not accepted the FDA as a valid authority for approving food and drugs.
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7. I think of it as more of a presumption in that case, personally. I think of it not as believing something to be true, but acting as though it is until given reason to reconsider that presumption.
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8. It's interesting when you offset Ken's thought against the concept of the fallacy of the argument from authority.
I tried but it wouldn't fit
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9. Arguments from authority is not a fallacy. Your argument from Origin of Species is, though flawed, a valid Argument from an Authority to you.
Let me elaborate. I believe all truth. But I have not yet arrived to the acquisition of the entirety of all that truth which is endless to the point where all my beliefs about that truth are flawless. Is that a clear enough statement?
you guys are so blamed vindictive about people who even accidentally double post like i just did. i did it without thinking about it, had an afterthought, posted it and then oops double post. i cannot be sorry enough about it because its a blamed high crime and felony offense when anyone does it, even accidentally. and i don't give a hip how you guys feel about complaining about the rules imv it's a valid complaint and i know i am far from the only one who feels this way. i'm not trying to increase my blamed post count!!!
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Data Meets C-3PO
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10. dp
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11. study3600 said: ↑
Is that a clear enough statement?
Are you not aware of what you sound like?
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12. study3600 said: ↑
Arguments from authority is not a fallacy. Your argument from Origin of Species is, though flawed, a valid Argument from an Authority to you.
Origin of a Species has been superseded with more evidence based and peer reviewed evidence further confirming that the Theory of Evolution is indeed correct (BTW Theory in Scientific terms means FACT not hypothesis)
When we use science it's not an argument from authority its an argument from evidence that is backed up, cross referenced, retested and reviewed by multiple other scientists (and in many cases lay people too)
Saying the bible is true because the bible says its true is just a circular fallacy but because you believe it to be true the fact it says it's true is enough for you.
Also, when did we move onto evolution? please don't go down this circular death trap, it'll be like the Senate in 2004/5/6/7/8/9/10.... all over again only more boring.
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study3600 said: ↑
you guys are so blamed vindictive about people who even accidentally double post like i just did. i did it without thinking about it, had an afterthought, posted it and then oops doubleb post. i cannot be sorry enough about it because its a blamed high crime and felony offense when anyone does it, even accidentally.
---edit is your friend and it actually exists, there is evidence for it as it's ON THE SCREEN.
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I blame the Rum, it's always the rum
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13. @study3600 Yes your statement was very clear. Your beliefs are flawed. But we already knew that, there was no need for elaboration.
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Blasphemy is a victimless crime.
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14. study3600 said: ↑
Arguments from authority is not a fallacy. Your argument from Origin of Species is, though flawed, a valid Argument from an Authority to you.
On the Origin of Species hasn’t been an authority on evolution in over a century. Darwin got a lot of things wrong, and the things he did get right have been expanded upon, clarified, and tweaked in order to form our current understanding of evolution. That’s how the scientific method works. Science is constantly improving upon what came before. Darwin was a starting point, but we’re beyond him now. And evolution isn’t dependent upon one person saying it’s true; evolution is true because it has been constantly demonstrated to be true by thousands upon thousands of independent experiments.
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
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15. I use edit every single time when i accidentally double post, but i find myself unable to delete the accidental double post and you guys keep making veiled threats about it. I put dp because it is impossible to leave a post blank.
The Word of God is also from our perspective but not from God's being updated and expanded.
I even went so far as to correct a bunch of multiple postings from up to 5 years ago when i wasnt even required to do it!
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16. Yoiu can't delete the second post. You just need to hit edit on the first and just not post the second.
Stop being so eager to respond. You're getting dragged because you don't read and actually understand what people are asking. It's like you're just powering in with a cut and paste response from a book of responses to Theist challenges.
Read what the likes of Timmo and Lost are asking and actually respond to the question otherwise you're giving politician distraction responses and trust me, that won't cut it here and you will and are being called out for it
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I blame the Rum, it's always the rum
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17. I don't get my responses from any playbook, I come up with them all on my own from my own freethinking mind, FatBurt. The only reason it sounds familiar to you is because we are all on the same spiritual wavelength trying to teach you the truth.
And I do read their posts and thats the way i am inspired to respond. If you guys don't like my responses, tough cookies.
Hitting edit because i dont want to get banned
Wouldnt it be nice if these forums were more laid back and we didn't have to be contantly looking over our shoulders and self policing and minimodding worrying about our own and looking out for others' double post infractions? THe ideal forum (and I own one, but won't link to it or advertise it here, as per rules) would be way less overregulated than this one.
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There is no Zeus. And for the same reasons I can say there is no god of the Bible or Allah or whatever.
Jedi Merkurian said:Side note: “Allah” is the Arabic word for “God.” So, for example, Arabic Christians will refer to Allah.
study3600 says in reply:
Ellah is the true Arabic word for Elohim, or Gods, or as Protestents and Evangelicals refer to them, and they are quite right to, God, the God of the Bible. Allah is a moon god.
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18. If you were interested in teaching the truth, you would have demonstrated the existence of your god when I asked you to a couple hundred posts ago. No, what I think you’re actually interested in is setting yourself up as an adversary, and then crying persecution when people reject your ideas. That’s a very common tactic among evangelicals, and it has grown tiresome. You don’t need to preach your beliefs to anyone but yourself. It has absolutely no effect on you if others don’t share your beliefs.
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
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19. I’m sorry but you are an idiot and an arrogant idiot if you think you are ‘trying’ to ‘teach us the truth’. You are preaching because preaching is part of your religion and you believe it will earn you heaven brownie points.
Your ‘truth’ cannot be taught because it is nonsense. It can only be accepted at face value by non thinking non critical lost souls who are yearning for some spiritual comfort. You just want a hug. I get it.
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20. Its sounds like the same mantra because it's the same thing drilled into you at the pulpit every week that is regurgitated here and elsewhere as you evangelise.
If religious types (generalisation) actually liked sex and encouraged it a significant portion of them would actually be classed as a dangerous cult.Edit - The praise to a specific leader to the expense of all others and trying to get more people on board irrespective of how insane your idea's are.
Honestly, if Christianity or similar appeared now, it would get the same disdain as Scientology
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21. First, I am not your adversary and second I did not arrive to my belief system overnight nor do I get it from the dogmatic teachings of any religious sect but from the source of truth itself-God, and what he has taught me as I got to know him over the years of my existence. And yes, you guys are persecuting me, but as my preaching is to me, that is only natural (your persecution) to you. Telling me what I believe is wrong when i know better is the definition of persecution. Trying to convince you of a belief that will save you is preaching. If you think that persecution has a moral high ground to preaching, thats your prerogitive to believe that. I am not forcing anyone to believe as I do but am trying to use gentle persuasion, to proclaim not nonsense, but the only thing in this world that makes any sense-the truth. Men hate the truth and prefer lies. I will defend your right to be an atheist, agnostic, satanist, Ba'hai, Buddhist or any faith you are or lack thereof but I am commanded by God to be a witness in all places I occupy at all times (and I do fail at this mind you but I sure am trying) and although I don't do it perfectly, if I can just bring one man or woman to the faith of God even if he never becomes Mormon or RLDS in this lifetime, I am happy because I do gain something! I get to rejoice forever with that soul in heaven. And if that's not gaining something, I don't know what is.
And ALL believers in Christ encourage lawful marital sex,and good sex too and a lot of it, and not just for procreation either.
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22. I'm not saying your belief is wrong. I'm saying that you have provided me ZERO evidence to accept the existence of a god or gods.
You provide me evidence that such a being or beings exist then I will accept that they exist.
I have no issues with doing that at all provided evidence is provided.
The hardest part will be to get me to EVER pray to the horror that is the Christian god as any god who pulls a Noah's Ark trick is an abhorrence and is not worthy of any form of worship or similar.
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23. study3600 said: ↑
And ALL believers in Christ encourage lawful marital sex,and good sex too and a lot of it, and not just for procreation either.
If you end up killing me in a voodoo ritual and raping my corpse, please at least keep my pickled head in a jar as a memento.
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24. - The Earth is flat
- You're wrong
- PERSECUTION!
I tried but it wouldn't fit
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25. What in the world? is lawful sex?
Beat me to it Harps but I suspect its a Man and a Woman who are married
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1. I do often weep for humanity.
Blasphemy is a victimless crime.
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2. FatBurt said: ↑
Beat me to it Harps but I suspect its a Man and a Woman who are married
It was such a random, creepy thing to end that wall of text with.
If you end up killing me in a voodoo ritual and raping my corpse, please at least keep my pickled head in a jar as a memento.
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3. Convinced me. I'm going to be a Catholic
I tried but it wouldn't fit
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4. Look, you’re not going to “save” anyone here who doesn’t already believe the same as you. You’re not called by god to repeatedly badger the same people over and over again until they finally accept it. In fact, the Bible specifically says to stop preaching and leave if people reject your ideas. Maybe take the hint that your preaching isn’t welcome here.
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
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5. I know the earth is round hollow a sphere and four geological and geographical points known as 'corners' but let's not jump down that rabbit hole. It's not persecution to tell someone they're wrong about something but to gang up on a guy and demand that he answers you to your complete satisaction, and tell me I'm just talking nonsense and have a persecution complex (and I'm really fine with the persecution, guys and gals I'm used to it) and that I'm just trying to earn brownie points with God (which I'm not-you can't get to heaven by your good works, you must have faith and perfect it by good works, but after you are reconciled to God we are saved only inn and through the Grace of God. Tell Martin Luther the reformer that and he would have laughed and continued doubting the book of James), is persecution, but it's ok. You guys can't spit on me or throw rocks from the other side of the computer screen, and even if you could you guys seem to civil to do so. But to try to convince someone their wrong about something is in and of itself not persecutionn and if you want a demonstration of God FatBurt then google the Hubble Deep Field and let it fill you with awe at a God who holds all that in the palm of his hand as he held noah's ark. The pre flood world was full of violence, hybrids, evil giants that ate men for supper and forbidden technologies that were just so gruesome it beggars the imagination. EVERYONE who died in that flood was wicked to his or her very core. They'd have killed their own grandmother and stolen her assets just to have enough extra spending money to spend on whatever they wanted, and they'd have spent it wickedly. These were people each one of them as bad as Hitler. Yes children died. Yes they were innocent. But they all went straight to paradise and God was so merciful that even some of those wicked people who died in that flood he brought out of hell later when they repented and they went to heaven.
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6. Hubble Deep Field is scientists reflecting the amazing depths of our Cosmos.
Nothing in ANY picture there says goddidit
Everything in the pre flood world was as god decreed so he either got it wrong and had to start again which means s/he's not infallible OR he made it that way and then decided to wipe the slate clean and start again which makes him/her and genocidal maniac.
As I say, believe what you want but your god is an abomination as per the words in your "good" book
Diggy's name is NOT made up
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7. study, you're rambling, but you're alright. I don't want to attack you. Sometimes you just make inconsistent points and I make fun of them. It doesn't mean anything.
I don't find this topic very fruitful so I see it as a source for jokes.
I tried but it wouldn't fit
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8. study3600 said: ↑
First, I am not your adversary and second I did not arrive to my belief system overnight nor do I get it from the dogmatic teachings of any religious sect but from the source of truth itself-God, and what he has taught me as I got to know him over the years of my existence. And yes, you guys are persecuting me, but as my preaching is to me, that is only natural (your persecution) to you. Telling me what I believe is wrong when i know better is the definition of persecution. Trying to convince you of a belief that will save you is preaching. If you think that persecution has a moral high ground to preaching, thats your prerogitive to believe that. I am not forcing anyone to believe as I do but am trying to use gentle persuasion, to proclaim not nonsense, but the only thing in this world that makes any sense-the truth. Men hate the truth and prefer lies. I will defend your right to be an atheist, agnostic, satanist, Ba'hai, Buddhist or any faith you are or lack thereof but I am commanded by God to be a witness in all places I occupy at all times (and I do fail at this mind you but I sure am trying) and although I don't do it perfectly, if I can just bring one man or woman to the faith of God even if he never becomes Mormon or RLDS in this lifetime, I am happy because I do gain something! I get to rejoice forever with that soul in heaven. And if that's not gaining something, I don't know what is.
And ALL believers in Christ encourage lawful marital sex,and good sex too and a lot of it, and not just for procreation either.
No, you are not being persecuted because people ask that you post proof of the claims you are making as opposed to just saying “I acquiesce to all you tell me, you saved me and I look forward to an afterlife of boredom with you!” Being asked to post proof is not persecution. If you think it is, you would never make it through an advanced degree program at a university, because not only would you be asked to post proof with credentialed sources, you would be asked to cite them using APA style.
No, you are not being accused of a felony by being called out on double posting. Even if you were banned for it, our Unban Request Forum is not prison.
What you are being is melodramatic.
Still waiting for why “they” are banning your sources of information from public libraries.
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9. @study3600 I ***** another man in the arse the other night. We weren't married either. How does that make you feel?
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10. SuperWatto said: ↑
I don't find this topic very fruitful so I see it as a source for jokes.
Everything is a source for jokes.
This thread exists because ****ing moviefan and lots of others used to derail JCC threads with Jesus talk. This was in 2014, I don't remember if you were around a lot during that time, It was pretty out of control, so this thread was created so that talk could be booted out of threads into here.
If you end up killing me in a voodoo ritual and raping my corpse, please at least keep my pickled head in a jar as a memento.
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11. If criticism is persecution, then it's clear you came here to persecute people, @study3600, because expecting you to ask questions is falls much shorter from meeting the definition of persecution than falsely accusing people of cognitive dissonance is, and that's what you've been doing as you make things up about people (part of your checkered history with 'the truth')
study3600 said: ↑
Arguments from authority is not a fallacy. Your argument from Origin of Species is, though flawed, a valid Argument from an Authority to you.
There is no "argument from Origin of Species", and that's not an argument from authority. It wasn't taken as valid because of who said it, but because it presented evidence. Evidence is that thing that you claim to have but are unable to present any of (in contrast to Darwin, who did present evidence. And it's been improved upon subsequently with additional evidence)
study3600 said: ↑
I am not forcing anyone to believe as I do but am trying to use gentle persuasion, to proclaim not nonsense, but the only thing in this world that makes any sense-the truth.
You're not using gentle persuasion, you're just lying about and to people and thinking that's convincing anyone.
study3600 said: ↑
I am commanded by God to be a witness in all places I occupy at all times
One would think if your god was 1. real and 2. intelligent that that god would send someone that would provide evidence after claiming they have evidence. Basically, no wise god would want to be represented by you, given the performance you've put on.
study3600 said: ↑
if you want a demonstration of God FatBurt then google the Hubble Deep Field
You have no idea what the Hubble Deep Field is or what it represents.
study3600 said: ↑
EVERYONE who died in that flood was wicked to his or her very core. They'd have killed their own grandmother and stolen her assets just to have enough extra spending money to spend on whatever they wanted, and they'd have spent it wickedly. These were people each one of them as bad as Hitler. Yes children died. Yes they were innocent.
You realize you've just said you consider Hitler to be the moral equivalent of innocent kids, right? Although I suppose we shouldn't be surprised if you'd make such a comparison.
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12. I think this is the first time I've seen Philosopher say something crude.
If you end up killing me in a voodoo ritual and raping my corpse, please at least keep my pickled head in a jar as a memento.
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13. EVERYONE in that sentence refered to the wicked and then i distinguished the wicked from the innocents, however, I think you knew that.
And not EVERYONE here is persecuting me. Lordban isnt. No other believer is. Jedi Merkurian isn't. Evenn some atheists and agnostics aren't. And I'm not waiting for ANYONE to say, I acquiesce. No, God works with each person's heart differently and individually and I can't make you believe anything. That's your choice, and if you want a practical demonstration of the existence of a God, read Heaven Is For Real by Todd Burpo. Just read it. Not trying to make people admit anything, just throwing thoughts out there to make people think diffently than how they usually think if they are so minded to be affected that way. Debating usually is fruitless, I agree, and I repeat I tried saying Peace out pages ago but you kept asking questions so I kept anwering. I can't be on here 24/7, I have a life, and a job, and I can't always get to or even answer your many questions and probably will never nor am I required to get to them all, AND I know EXACTLY WHAT THE HUBBLE DEEP FIELD IS WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED AND WHAT IT REPRESENTS, it is presumption on your part to make a false claim that I don't.
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14. study3600 said: ↑
EVERYONE in that sentence refered to the wicked and then i distinguished the wicked from the innocents, however, I think you knew that.
EVERYONE who died in that flood was wicked to his or her very core.
that's a clear sentence. There was no distinguishing the innocents, to do that the use of the word "Apart" may have been useful
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15. ok , what is the point of this thread ?
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16. harpua said: ↑
SuperWatto said: ↑
I don't find this topic very fruitful so I see it as a source for jokes.
Everything is a source for jokes.
This thread exists because ****ing moviefan and lots of others used to derail JCC threads with Jesus talk. This was in 2014, I don't remember if you were around a lot during that time, It was pretty out of control, so this thread was created so that talk could be booted out of threads into here.
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17. FatBurt, I only have one thing to say. Three simple words: Context Is EVERYTHING!
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18. study3600 said: ↑
I know the earth is round hollow a sphere and four geological and geographical points known as 'corners' but let's not jump down that rabbit hole.
Then don't say anything if you don't want a response. Or do you believe by virtue that you are the sole possessor of 'truth' that only you get to speak?
You Yaldabaoth-worshippers, obsessed with persecuting nonbelievers, sometimes even try my beliefs.
study3600 said: ↑
Tell Martin Luther the reformer
The only thing I would tell Martin Luther the revanchist is that his paleolithic fanaticism was only revolutionary in the sense that he adamantly stood in place while the world moved forward.
study3600 said: ↑
google the Hubble Deep Field
Don't speak of things you actively pursue ignorance of understanding.
study3600 said: ↑
The pre flood world was full of violence, hybrids, evil giants that ate men for supper and forbidden technologies that were just so gruesome it beggars the imagination. EVERYONE who died in that flood was wicked to his or her very core.
One has to wonder about the failures of the Demiurge's supposed creations that caused such an absurd overreaction, if in fact any of it was true.
study3600 said: ↑
They'd have killed their own grandmother
Fortunately, their grandmothers died during this supposed flood as well, but presumably these grandmothers would've killed their grandmothers, or something.
study3600 said: ↑
Yes children died. Yes they were innocent.
You just literally said "EVERYONE" who died was wicked. I fear that even when your own statements betray falsehoods you hold them all as true - but to be expected, I suppose.
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19. study3600 said: ↑
I know the earth is round hollow
Wait, what?
Still at the end of every hard-earned day people find some reason to believe.
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20. study3600 said: ↑
FatBurt, I only have one thing to say. Three simple words: Context Is EVERYTHING!
I agree, can you please provide some with correct punctuation, sentence structure and grammer. Paragraphs would be nice too.
Darth Guy said: ↑
study3600 said: ↑
I know the earth is round hollow
Wait, what?
I missed that
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Diggy's name is NOT made up
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21. The word for word quoting of dumb posts is getting really tiresome.
I don't know what I dislike more, the dumb posts or the continued serious attention given to them.
I tried but it wouldn't fit
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22. I'm not getting into a debate with you or anyone consisting of but you said but i meant but you said but i meant. It's fruitless, poinless and contentious. I'm not changing the way I talk because you didn't happen to flunk out of English class in High School the way I did.
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23. study3600 said: ↑
EVERYONE in that sentence refered to the wicked and then i distinguished the wicked from the innocents, however, I think you knew that.
You didn't distinguish wicked from innocent. You said everyone that was killed. Everyone means everyone, not some. In the same sense that if I said "Everyone that believes in god is a child molester" that would be rightly criticised, and wouldn't be 'fixed' if I said "well, by everyone, I just meant only the ones that molest children".
study3600 said: ↑
No, God works with each person's heart differently and individually and I can't make you believe anything.
You claimed scientific evidence, specifically. That is what you have been asked to then provide, and you have repeatedly refused to provide scientific evidence.
study3600 said: ↑
That's your choice, and if you want a practical demonstration of the existence of a God, read Heaven Is For Real by Todd Burpo.
That isn't a practical demonstration of anything meaningful.
study3600 said: ↑
you kept asking questions so I kept anwering.
You really haven't even *started* answering questions. You post plenty of unrelated responses or make things up instead, but you haven't actually answered questions you've been asked. The whole ordeal has gone on this long specifically because you refuse to answer questions.
study3600 said: ↑
AND I know EXACTLY WHAT THE HUBBLE DEEP FIELD IS WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED AND WHAT IT REPRESENTS, it is presumption on your part to make a false claim that I don't.
You don't know what it represents, given that you just told someone that is not believing in god that it would be a 'demonstration of god'. It isn't that. An objective look at it does not lead to any conclusion that there is a god, and that you think it does just highlights your lack of understanding of it. This seems to reflect your broader lack of understanding when it comes to science.
study3600 said: ↑
I'm not getting into a debate with you or anyone consisting of but you said but i meant but you said but i meant. It's fruitless, poinless and contentious. I'm not changing the way I talk because you didn't happen to flunk out of English class in High School the way I did.
It's almost impressive that you have taken your "all-knowing" stance after that.
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24. I’m ELCA Lutheran. @blackmyron has Martin Luther correctly pegged. The man was, among other things, an anti-Semitic ***hole. He only gets credit for putting forth the idea that nobody can pay to get into heaven and that nobody should have to wait for the priest to read the Bible to them. No Catholic now buys into what Luther was initially protesting.
The ELCA Lutheran church, however, recognizes that Jesus of Nazareth was a brown-skinned homeless guy who, in the words of the great Douglas Adams, got nailed to a tree for saying that maybe people should be nicer to each other. Also that the religious authorities of the time were full of **** and put ethnocentrism, profits and ritualism before actual humans. So it aligns with my beliefs pretty well.
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1. Okay, this has to be a troll.
If you end up killing me in a voodoo ritual and raping my corpse, please at least keep my pickled head in a jar as a memento.
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2. harpua said: ↑
What in the world? is lawful sex?
I believe on an alignment chart it would be next to "neutral sex."
Thank you for not discussing the outside world.
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3. Joseph Smith Jr only had a fifth or sixth grade education and never went to college but at his death at age 37 or 42 i think in 1844 he knew more than all the rest of the world because of the things God taught him. I make no such claim, but I may not be the king of grammar but i write what i write from the heart. I may not always put every participle and comma in the exact right place, sun]bect and verb all my agrrements, dot everyv i or cross every t and sometimes i do ramble but i speak what comes directly from my heart enhanced by all the knowledge i have obtained by testing it and finding it true and rejecting all i know to be false.
And Anakinfan is no troll, she's got a lot of clout on other boards, she was merely commenting on a subject i talked about in one of my posts.
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4. I just looked at the Wikipedia page for Heaven Is for Real. The co-author admitted they made some stuff up. And I could not find any credentials for the author other than he’s a pastor, which could mean anything depending on the denomination. He could have become a pastor by standing in front of a church and claiming he got called to preach.
One thing I like about ELCA Lutheran seminaries is the pastoral candidates are required to learn to read the New Testament in ancient Greek, and IIRC the Old Testament in Hebrew as well. You catch a lot that got lost in translation that way.
And ah, Joseph Smith…apparently what he “knew” is that men could marry several women at once but could not marry another man, nor could a woman marry several women at once. Also that trying to regulate the number of children you have is bad. I can live without what he “knew” and any “god” who taught him that.
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5. "Hybrids", man eating giants, forbidden technology, ancient cars and planes, a hollow Earth.
This is the good stuff.
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6. Uh, I didn't call Tracy a troll. I said you have got to be a troll
If you end up killing me in a voodoo ritual and raping my corpse, please at least keep my pickled head in a jar as a memento.
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7. I'm only TRYING to answer your questions for pity's sake and i tried to peace out many pages ago. Trolls intentionally cause problems. I'm just trying to join in your conversations. Why don't you ask each other questions instead of focusing on me? This thread is NOT about me!
Anakinfansince1983:
On Colton Burpo. He recently went on TV not only reaffirming his testimony but saying there were rumors and lies being got up saying he had denied his testimony and some of it was made up when it was not.
On Smith:
THere were three groups of conspirators satan raised up to try and pin polygamy on Joseph Smith Jr: Brigham Young, who tried to kill his son after helping Albert Pike kill Smith, also the author and publisher of the Nauvoo Expositor William Law who accused hiim of things he didn't do, and Smith was outvoted in the council so he couldn't stop the destruction of the printing press which led to Smith arrest and trial on trumped up charges and assassination. Third a man named Cochrane and his sect accused him of it, as well as John C. Bennett. On her deathbed, Emma Smith proclaimed that she was the only wife Joseph had.
"I had not been married scarcely five minutes (forgive this man a little hyperbole, or maybe it wasn't, it doesnt ,matter) and made one proclamation of the Gospel, before it was reported that I had seven wives. . . .I am innocent of all these charges. . . .What a thing it is for a man to be accused of adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one. I am the the same man, and as innocent as I was fourteen years ago; and I can prove them all perjurers.-Sermon, Joseph Smith Jr, 1844, the year he died.
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8. You came in here on you own, then proceeded to tell us you were out to save our souls. What in the world??
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9. study3600 said: ↑
i speak what comes directly from my heart enhanced by all the knowledge i have obtained by testing it and finding it true and rejecting all i know to be false.
Maybe you would get less flak if you tried to sound less like a prequel character. Just a tip.
I tried but it wouldn't fit
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10. You've kinda made it about you though.
Look, you're getting piled on. It's not nice but you're making no sense and are posting a lot of stuff that just makes no sense. You're in panic stations and disaster recovery and when that happens you may as well be in the control tower in Airplane but Lloyd Bridges isn't here to help.
Take a step back and start again or don't but currently you're digging a pit and you have no ladder
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11. study3600 said: ↑
i tried to peace out many pages ago.
Try not. Do, or do not.
No one is stopping you from leaving except you. People keep asking you questions, but you don't have to answer any of them.
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12. harpua said: ↑
Okay, this has to be a troll.
study3600 said: ↑
And Anakinfan is no troll, she's got a lot of clout on other boards,
This guy is absolutely a troll. The 'game', as it were, was given away here.
SuperWatto said: ↑
Maybe you would get less flak if you tried to sound less like a prequel character. Just a tip.
Seriously, you criticize other people posting in this thread, and then make a Star Wars reference? Unbelievable.
study3600 said: ↑
Trolls intentionally cause problems.
You mean like trying to recast one of the Abrahamic faiths as a pagan one, rather than worshipping the same supreme deity that all of them purport to follow?
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13. @study3600 maybe you would fare better if you would just ask your god directly which words you should say that will convince us, and then relay those words verbatim. Your god is all-knowing, right? So he should be able to tell you exactly what to say.
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
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14. Friday night.... woooh.
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15. Hey, some of us need to kill some time before The Last Drive-In season finale live broadcast beginning in a little over an hour.
True story: In my college days, I was sitting outside on a bench reading the school newspaper, when I was suddenly flanked by two religious 'recruiters'. They ask you what faith you were - I said "Catholic" because I was raised as such but, y'know, I wasn't - and then had a set spiel to create 'conflict' tailored with whatever belief system that you said you possessed. When I pushed back, then immediately would go "Say, that's a good point, maybe you should bring it up at the meeting. Come to the meeting and tell everyone what you told us!"
Now, I could've just gotten up and left. But I decided that no, they are going to leave, not me. I tried to get them to mention what religion they followed, but they coyly would just say they were "Christian" without any denomination, and attempts to get them to narrow it down failed. And then, inspiration struck. I realized what their goal was, and used it against them.
I agreed with anything they said.
They seemed excited at first, but when they insisted I come to their meeting - the goal was obviously to get people there by hook or by crook and then 'overwhelm' them with numbers - I refused, stating that "I already believe everything you do, why do I need to come?"
When they said "Well, you can worship with us", I responded, "I have my own church, thanks, no interest in worshipping in a different one. Besides, we believe the same thing, what does it matter?"
The two of them finally got up without a word and I went back to reading the paper.
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16. study3600 said: ↑
I may not always put every participle and comma in the exact right place, sun]bect and verb all my agrrements, dot everyv i or cross every t and sometimes i do ramble but i speak what comes directly from my heart enhanced by all the knowledge i have obtained by testing it and finding it true and rejecting all i know to be false.
You have been unable to provide any indication you have a 'testing' method, even though you expect other people to acknowledge your conclusions as universally valid. An atheist can just as easily say that they have tested things, kept the true things and rejected the false things and so you're wrong, and you have presented nothing that could identify any flaws in their process. You claim they exist, but you claim that only because you believe you're right, not because you can identify some flaw that their approach had and yours didn't. But yet you still persist in acting like you have a clear truth on your side rather than a personal truth.
Frankly, if there was a wise Christian God and a Christian Satan, the only one of those that would be inspiring you to speak would be Satan, because all you do is damage any argument in favor of a god with your approaches. Your posts are exactly what an entity that wanted people to think that worshiping god was the domain of fools would want to see spread. A wise god would either give you some decent words and evidence that could affect positive change, or ask you to keep quiet.
study3600 said: ↑
Why don't you ask each other questions instead of focusing on me?
Questions have been asked of other people, they don't turn into sagas because other people answer the questions, they don't just make things up to post.
blackmyron said: ↑
Now, I could've just gotten up and left. But I decided that no, they are going to leave, not me.
I've got a similar story between me and a Lyndon LaRouche supporter that stood around a college campus trying to recruit people with an ambush of nonsense, and I consider it a moment of great pride that eventually he told me that he had to go.
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17. Ok here's a tip for you. The reason my words don't make sense to you is because you have not sought to understand them and can't. I have spoken plain as day. Lordban understood me. Jedi Merkurian even understood me. He is very enlightened, Anakinfan never told me i was speaking nonsense, nor has the woman i forgot her name and dont want to leave the page to look it up who posted the passage fronm revelation describing heaven, which one of you criticized saying God wasnt a good zone planner or something like that. My words only seen nonsensical to the unenligtened, and without faith you only have your books and your version of science and all your things that are peer reviewed and approved by other non believeers,. That's your world people. We are not on the same spiritual wavelength so everything I say is either taken way out of context or i am accused of lying and/or not being honest or it seems just like word salad to you. Try reading the book of Proverbs, you know, just for the experience and the bragging rights to say hey I read that book. It's an interesting read. You might actually enjoy it. Not my proofs and evidences that are not peer reviewed and you think I haven't provided but what is regarded with Ecclesiastes as one of the greatest Wisdom texts in the world. Set aside your unbelief and incredulity and give Proverbs reputed to be by one of the wisest men on earth a fair hearing. You are not required to. No one will make you. But I challenge you to.
And I do answer, you just don't like my answers
For probably not the last time, I am trying to answer as many of your questions as I can, the best way i know how to.
Jedi Merkurian, am I allowed to link offsite to a Google Document that is rated G?
REASON: It explains my full at this time knowledge testing method in very good detail, so they can stop claiming I have none and calling me a liar.
And Jedi Merkurian, I formally apologize for any rudeness or uncalled for tersenes or crudity shown on this forum, and for complaining about double posting rules, it wasn't my place.
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19. study3600 said: ↑
Lordban understood me. Jedi Merkurian even understood me. He is very enlightened
And yet you didn't understand Lordban, and you accused Jedi Merkurian of cognitive dissonance because you didn't understand him. So it's weird that you now want to call him enlightened after what you've called him previously.
study3600 said: ↑
My words only seen nonsensical to the unenligtened, and without faith you only have your books and your version of science and all your things that are peer reviewed and approved by other non believeers,.
My "version of science" is science. And you're making things up again, because that seems to be your go-to on a topic you don't know or don't understand. Peer-review includes plenty of religious people because there are plenty of religious scientists. hey, the first mathematical model of the Big Bang was proposed by a Catholic priest.
However, what all those that I've known have in common is that they separate out their religious views from their scientific views, and they don't claim that the science proves that god is real or that science is constrained to what god says.
study3600 said: ↑
We are not on the same spiritual wavelength so everything I say is either taken way out of context or i am accused of lying and/or not being honest or it seems just like word salad to you.
1. Things weren't taken out of context, your words were explicit.
2. You were not merely accused of lying, you were very obviously making things up. Now, you can argue that you're just that ignorant if you want, but that really undermines your thing about only believing true things when you repeatedly make false statements.
study3600 said: ↑
Not my proofs and evidences that are not peer reviewed and you think I haven't provided but what is regarded with Ecclesiastes as one of the greatest Wisdom texts in the world.
You started off making stong claims that you had scientific evidence, though. You're trying to walk that back, but scientific evidence is, by its nature, subject to the sort of scrutiny that peer review gives.
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No one will make you. But I challenge you to.
How many other religious texts (specifically) have you read? It certainly sounds like you haven't read the Kitáb-i-Aqdas, yet you seem quite confident making claims about it being wrong, for example. It seems that this challenge appears to only apply to others, but not you.
study3600 said: ↑
And I do answer, you just don't like my answers
No you don't. Again, you have been asked, repeatedly, to identify two beliefs or thoughts I hold, and then explain in what way they are contradictory such that I am exhibiting cognitive dissonance. You still haven't even identified two beliefs or thoughts that I hold, let alone identify a contradiction between them. It's like someone claiming they've ordered already because when the waiter asked what they wanted from the menu, nothing they said was on the menu. That's not answering the question of what they wanted from the menu.
So again, what are *my* contradictory beliefs or thoughts, not what you believe or what you make up. You haven't answered this question until after you can identify two beliefs or thoughts I have in the first place (and there is a subsequent part of why they're contradictory, but this is one step at a time here).
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20. Books, academic sources and peer review are how people become “enlightened.” Not the other way around.
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21. study3600 said: ↑
My words only seen nonsensical to the unenligtened,
Your words are nonsensical because, as my beliefs inform me, you are unenlightened.
study3600 said: ↑
Try reading the book of Proverbs,
I've read the Bible, in the sense that you can read a text that has different meanings in its different versions. Plus much of the Apocrypha.
You try reading the Exegesis of Phillip K. D i c k.
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22. I’ve read the Bible thoroughly, both when I was a believer and after I became an atheist. It’s not the least bit convincing. There’s some good poetry and well written passages, but there’s also some horrific **** that should disgust anyone who has a shred of morality.
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
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23. Lowbacca, I'm not smart like you. I'm not college educated like you. BUT I MADE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UP THAT I SAID!
If you two (or three I lost count) read the Bible and the Bible thougherly Exigeted, then you DON'T understand it at all nor any of the ways of the God who wrote it, or you all or both would not only be Believers but YOU would be the one accused of being a liar and a troll who speaks like the devil's servant and just trying to win Divine favor!
And if those blatantly FALSE accusations are not persecution, then I DON'T KNOW what IS!
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24. I've brought this up before, and it's off topic from @study3600 except in the sense of making convincing arguments in favor of religious belief to people who haven't been indoctrinated from birth. I raised my children without subjecting them to any kind of religious indoctrination other than celebrating Passover nearly every year of their lives with our best friends. And they attended a **** ton of bar and bat mitvahs. They've been to a few Christian themed funerals/memorial services and maybe one Catholic Christmas Eve mass. But definitely no Sunday school or confirmation classes etc.
My kids are free to explore any religion they like at any time if they find they're missing out. I've encouraged them to take world religion classes just so they're not ignorant about the way of the world. According to Pew Research, 22.8% of people in the U.S. have no religious affiliation, but only 7% confirm that they are atheist or agnostic, so we're still a small minority. A lot of the 15.8% who are "nothing in particular" I suppose have the good sense to just not think about it all that much. Good for them!
But it's nice that we have a solid generation now that was raised without any church affiliation.
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Lowbacca, I'm not smart like you. I'm not college educated like you. BUT I MADE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UP THAT I SAID!
You accused him of knowing that god is real yet denying it anyway. Those were words that YOU said. And their words were lies.
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
1. Lowbacca, I'm not smart like you. I'm not college educated like you. BUT I MADE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UP THAT I SAID!
Yes you did. You made up specific things to claim I believe that I do not believe, and used your made-up claims to then claim it as your evidence that I had a cognitive dissonance.
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And if those blatantly FALSE accusations are not persecution, then I DON'T KNOW what IS!
Agreed, you don't know what persecution is.
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2. I love that a thread that literally has the word "Thunderdome" in the title has a person complaining "Guys, stop arguing with me!"
@study3600 , maybe the problem isn't a lack of secular education, or lack of exposure to the actual beliefs of other faiths - it's your lack of knowledge of the Mad Max movies.
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3. Oh man, he's totally going ape**** holy roller now.
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4. study3600 said: ↑
And if those blatantly FALSE accusations are not persecution, then I DON'T KNOW what IS!
Falsely reframing Islam as a pagan faith?
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5. 1/1 Persons on earth KNOW God is rea,l timmoishere. About half of them deny what their own heart tells them in some way either by their belief in whatevertat's not God or lack therof( believing in nothing )or by their actions toward him though they profess belief.
There are no atheists in the foxhole and if every man and women were truly to examine themselves, they'd all find there are no true atheists. and since the Bible says this too, then I'm not just making this or anything up.
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6. Boba_Fett_2001 said: ↑
harpua said: ↑
What in the world? is lawful sex?
I believe on an alignment chart it would be next to "neutral sex."
I prefer "chaotic evil sex."
study3600 said: ↑
Jedi Merkurian even understood me. He is very enlightened
He's very articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.
study3600 said: ↑
you guys are so blamed vindictive about people who even accidentally double post like i just did. i did it without thinking about it, had an afterthought, posted it and then oops double post. i cannot be sorry enough about it because its a blamed high crime and felony offense when anyone does it, even accidentally. and i don't give a hip how you guys feel about complaining about the rules imv it's a valid complaint and i know i am far from the only one who feels this way. i'm not trying to increase my blamed post count!!!
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dp
This is one-hundred percent a troll.
If you're wearing pants on the Purge, you're making yourself a victim.
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7. It’s not persecution if you’re the one who initiated the conversation. Nobody here has the desire to confront you about your beliefs, because unlike you, we don’t have a holy mandate to convert you to our cause.
I do not know that a god is real, so therefore I am not denying it. And there absolutely are atheists in foxholes. militaryatheists.org/atheists-in-foxholes/
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8. This is something gabe would do. He's done it before, lol
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9. Islam is NOTHING like Christianity! Nothing! It teaches the complete opposite of everything the Bible teaches, training its radicallized followers to be murderers, rapists, pedophiles, polygamist (And Mohammed, peace be upon him, was ALL these) and they BEHEAD CHRISTIANS and JEWS just for being CHRISTIANS and JEWS or make them submit and pay a jit'za tax or some such word. It's all right there in the Koran and the Hadith, the very traditions of Mohommed.
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10. Bold Prediction! There is no god only Zuul.
Oh lord...that’s what they’re doing?
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11. study3600 said: ↑
1/1 Persons on earth KNOW God is rea,l timmoishere. About half of them deny what their own heart tells them in some way either by their belief in whatevertat's not God or lack therof( believing in nothing )or by their actions toward him though they profess belief.
I'd say that I know your god exists about as much as I know Bigfoot exists, but I suspect you think that's real too.
study3600 said: ↑
There are no atheists in the foxhole and if every man and women were truly to examine themselves, they'd all find there are no true atheists. and since the Bible says this too, then I'm not just making this or anything up.
There are plenty of atheists in foxholes. If you're going to hang everything on this, then you've demonstrated that the Bible is clearly false because there *are* atheists
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Islam is NOTHING like Christianity! Nothing! It teaches the complete opposite of everything the Bible teaches, training its radicallized followers to be murderers, rapists, pedophiles, polygamist (And Mohammed, peace be upon him, was ALL these) and they BEHEAD CHRISTIANS and JEWS just for being CHRISTIANS and JEWS or make them submit and pay a jit'za tax or some such word. It's all right there in the Koran and the Hadith, the very traditions of Mohommed.
Have you never heard of the Crusades? How you perceive Islam today is exactly how Christians behaved in the past.
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
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13. Some people in the foxhole may be so hardened that even then they deny God, but thety do really in their heart of hearts know he exists.
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14. study3600 said: ↑
Islam is NOTHING like Christianity! Nothing! It teaches the complete opposite of everything the Bible teaches, training its radicallized followers to be murderers, rapists, pedophiles, polygamist (And Mohammed, peace be upon him, was ALL these) and they BEHEAD CHRISTIANS and JEWS just for being CHRISTIANS and JEWS or make them submit and pay a jit'za tax or some such word. It's all right there in the Koran and the Hadith, the very traditions of Mohommed.
Who's going to break the news to him?
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15. just when you thought it couldn't get any worse
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Some people in the foxhole may be so hardened that even then they deny God, but thety do really in their heart of hearts know he exists.
That’s another blatant lie. Isn’t there a commandment against bearing false witness?
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
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Lowbacca, I'm not smart like you. I'm not college educated like you
Yes this is painfully apparent.
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Some people in the foxhole may be so hardened that even then they deny God, but thety do really in their heart of hearts know he exists.
Sort of like how your heart is hardened, but in your heart you really do know that there is no god but allah and mohommad is his prophet? You just deny it even though you know it is true?
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Some people in the foxhole may be so hardened that even then they deny God, but thety do really in their heart of hearts know he exists.
Great start to a gay porno.
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20. Catholic pedophiles, etc etc etc
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21. First of all, the Crusades was trying to A Retake the Holy City which the Muslims stole from the Jews B)Protect consatinople from invasion for had it been breachged there would now be no Christianity to speak of and C ) No I'm not saying everything "Christians" did in those conflicts was right, but remember those same so called Christians either had or would or were enacting the horrors of the Spanish Inquisition, and you cant (no one can) paint all "Christians" with one broad brush.
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22. Who knew all it would take to make Philosopher go blue was a discussion about religion?
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23. study3600 said: ↑
Islam is NOTHING like Christianity!
It's one of the Abrahamic faiths, whatever your personal beliefs are.
I mean, my beliefs indicate that you are likely cozened by the falsehoods of Archons, but I have no interest in prosthelytizing.
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First of all, the Crusades was trying to A Retake the Holy City which the Muslims stole from the Jews
"You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen."
study3600 said: ↑
and you cant (no one can) paint all "Christians" with one broad brush.
Except you have no problem painting people with broad brushes, repeatedly.
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you cant (no one can) paint all "Christians" with one broad brush.
You can't say this, just after making sweeping generalizations about atheists/other.
If you end up killing me in a voodoo ritual and raping my corpse, please at least keep my pickled head in a jar as a memento.
1. First of all, the Archons are not my gods. They, the Watchers, were and are the ones responsible cheify with satan and his cohorts for the wicked pre and post flood conditions.
I do not paint all Atheists, /agnostics with one broad brush. There are even theistic atheists. Atheists/ agnostics come in many varieties and their beliefs often vary widely.
And I'm not saying stop arguing with me, I'm saying we should be civil here. We don't know who'se tender feelings may be hurt. (Not mine, you haven't hurt mine at all, but some people are waaay more sensitive than others. God forbid a Karen should come on this board )
My new policy: Every time you accuse me of A)Lying or B)Making things up or C) make a presumption about knowledge i do or do not have, I will ignore that sentiment and respond to your other questions, do I have to really spell everything out, your other questions that I am at my sole discretion inclined to answer, or the ones I get to.
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2. study3600 said: ↑
Lowbacca, I'm not smart like you. I'm not college educated like you. BUT I MADE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UP THAT I SAID!
If you two (or three I lost count) read the Bible and the Bible thougherly Exigeted, then you DON'T understand it at all nor any of the ways of the God who wrote it, or you all or both would not only be Believers but YOU would be the one accused of being a liar and a troll who speaks like the devil's servant and just trying to win Divine favor!
And if those blatantly FALSE accusations are not persecution, then I DON'T KNOW what IS!
Trying to control women’s bodies, trying to keep people who love each other from getting married, denying the humanity of trans people. All far more harmful than people arguing with you on the Internet, which is not “persecution.”
And God did not write the Bible. Humans did. The Old Testament was mostly oral tradition written down later. The New Testament was written by a variety of authors—Matthew, Luke, John, Paul and Peter being among them.
You may not have made anything up, but you are demanding that people take your word without proof and you still are not providing academic sources for your statements.
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Islam is NOTHING like Christianity! Nothing! It teaches the complete opposite of everything the Bible teaches, training its radicallized followers to be murderers, rapists, pedophiles, polygamist (And Mohammed, peace be upon him, was ALL these) and they BEHEAD CHRISTIANS and JEWS just for being CHRISTIANS and JEWS or make them submit and pay a jit'za tax or some such word. It's all right there in the Koran and the Hadith, the very traditions of Mohommed.
Muslims literally worship the same God that Christians do, as do Jewish people. And you have not read the Quran.
Also watch the Islamophobia. We have a hate speech policy here.
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I do not paint all Atheists, /agnostics with one broad brush. There are even theistic atheists. Atheists/ agnostics come in many varieties and their beliefs often vary widely.
1. You do paint them all with one broad brush, because you claimed that all atheists know that god exists. That's a very broad brush that, arguably, doesn't apply to any of them, let alone to all of them.
2. there aren't theistic atheists, because that's a contradiction in terms (for someone so obsessed over cognitive dissonance, you seem very confused by actual contradictions),as theistic would mean someone that believes in gods, and atheist means someone that does not believe in any gods.
(and again, you still haven't been able to identify two beliefs I hold that are contradictory. Largely as you seem to not even be able to identify beliefs/thoughts I hold in general, let alone find contradictions within them)
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4. I get it, @study3600 , you’re getting flustered because we aren’t bowing down to each of your claims without question. And while I normally think it’s glorious to send evangelicals home crying their eyes out, you have to realize that you brought this on yourself. Maybe you should try not preaching when you’re not qualified to do so.
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
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5. Guys, I think the real question here is why aren't we talking about study's humorous versions of the prequels?
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6. ↑
Islam is NOTHING like Christianity! Nothing! It teaches the complete opposite of everything the Bible teaches, training its radicallized followers to be murderers, rapists, pedophiles, polygamist (And Mohammed, peace be upon him, was ALL these) and they BEHEAD CHRISTIANS and JEWS just for being CHRISTIANS and JEWS or make them submit and pay a jit'za tax or some such word. It's all right there in the Koran and the Hadith, the very traditions of Mohommed.
@anakinfansince1983 I am surprised that you, after reading , THIS^^^^ CAN SAY THISVVVVVVso I presume you just SKIMMED THIS ^^^^^
Muslims literally worship the same God that Christians do, as do Jewish people. And you have not read the Quran.
And BTW, I studied and studied the Qu'ran for hours.
I swear, God, these people think I know nothing.
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7. oh man
If you end up killing me in a voodoo ritual and raping my corpse, please at least keep my pickled head in a jar as a memento.
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8. blackmyron said: ↑
Hey, some of us need to kill some time before The Last Drive-In season finale live broadcast beginning in a little over an hour.
True story: In my college days, I was sitting outside on a bench reading the school newspaper, when I was suddenly flanked by two religious 'recruiters'. They ask you what faith you were - I said "Catholic" because I was raised as such but, y'know, I wasn't - and then had a set spiel to create 'conflict' tailored with whatever belief system that you said you possessed. When I pushed back, then immediately would go "Say, that's a good point, maybe you should bring it up at the meeting. Come to the meeting and tell everyone what you told us!"
Now, I could've just gotten up and left. But I decided that no, they are going to leave, not me. I tried to get them to mention what religion they followed, but they coyly would just say they were "Christian" without any denomination, and attempts to get them to narrow it down failed. And then, inspiration struck. I realized what their goal was, and used it against them.
I agreed with anything they said.
They seemed excited at first, but when they insisted I come to their meeting - the goal was obviously to get people there by hook or by crook and then 'overwhelm' them with numbers - I refused, stating that "I already believe everything you do, why do I need to come?"
When they said "Well, you can worship with us", I responded, "I have my own church, thanks, no interest in worshipping in a different one. Besides, we believe the same thing, what does it matter?"
The two of them finally got up without a word and I went back to reading the paper.
That was rather clever of you.
I find that rage and coarse language gets rid of them much more quickly and easily.
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Islam is NOTHING like Christianity! Nothing! It teaches the complete opposite of everything the Bible teaches, training its radicallized followers to be murderers, rapists, pedophiles, polygamist (And Mohammed, peace be upon him, was ALL these) and they BEHEAD CHRISTIANS and JEWS just for being CHRISTIANS and JEWS or make them submit and pay a jit'za tax or some such word. It's all right there in the Koran and the Hadith, the very traditions of Mohommed.
@anakinfansince1983 I am surprised that you, after reading , THIS^^^^ CAN SAY THISVVVVVVso I presume you just SKIMMED THIS ^^^^^
Muslims literally worship the same God that Christians do, as do Jewish people. And you have not read the Quran.
And BTW, I studied and studied the Qu'ran for hours.
I swear, God, these people think I know nothing.
I certainly did read that, and I will ban you if you generalize Muslims that way again.
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10. I wanted to beat them at their own game, for once.
Honestly, I could've just got up and left as well. But I was initially amused by their attempts to show how "Catholicism" was terrible and wrong to someone that wasn't Catholic. (Did you know that that nowhere in the Bible is there a reference to a "Pope"?)
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11. "them"
I tried but it wouldn't fit
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12.
Yes, "them".
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13. @timmoishere As I before stated plainly, I don't want you guys to bow down to any belief of mine, just to think. And if you say you do think, then to think more, and if you say you think more, then to think ouside the box and not put God or no god or gods in one, and if you don't choose to think about my words, then that's ok. That's your choice. God gave you all freedom to choose what you believe. But no belief or lack thereof is without consequence. But whether or not you choose to believe this is no skin off my back. Conversion if it takes place at all takes one man or women or group of men and women or women or men (not debating that lib stuff Anakinfansince1983, politics is explosive like dynamite) to sow the seed, either he she or them or someone else that comes along later to water, but neither they nor I can control what fruit or results comes from that later down the line. My words may only serve to harden some more, and soften others at the same time. The same sun that melts ice hardens clay. I am not in charge of your conversion or lack thereof. I just try to sow seed thoughts. Atheists oft call them mindworms but believers call true mindworms the lies of satan, and I speak the truth of God. And that was addresed to all on the forum, not just to timmoishere, though the first part was, just thought i'd spell that out for you so you don't come back at me later and accuse me of directing all those words at only timmoishere.
@rogue1-and-a-half an open secret. The cheif aim of the humorous versions is to show what the Star Wars charaters would be like if they were all seriously flawed humans and not exemplars of perfect humanity like gods, which generates hilairity and keeps one in stitches so to speak all the way through the script parodies, as well as all kinds of other sight gags, plot twists and other types of jokes abound in abundance (that was a Hebrew poetic device called the cognate accusitive like dreamed a dream or saw a vision, not a grammatical eror) and I make no apologies for the drug references and sometimes rather crude sex u al humor throughout. This is real life we deal with. So deal. Plus there are plenty of genuine clean-minded laughs all throughout, and a joke per person's tastes it seems, whether you are atheist, Believer, satanist, Ba'hai, it's just plain funny, sure to tickle anyone's funnybone for any occasion in which you or anyone has enough downtime to read through them. They were started in 1999 by a man named Speak and me and Gonk kept them going in 2005 with Agent j, fistofthedarklord's Darth Vacuous, Jandor_Tarvin's, Purp's and many other's help. It's a labor of love and the whole reason I joined tf.n in the first place. EDIT: And I can't forget Darth_Revvin, who is probably still out there biding his........nails.
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14. Yet again, I'm not an atheist. By my beliefs, your beliefs are incorrect. Whom do I believe?
It's rhetorical. Me. I believe my beliefs are correct. This is what Terry Pratchett calls an imp arse.
In any case, Joe Bob Briggs is starting his monologue, so I'll leave the discussion with the Islamophobe to others. And @study3600 ? Next time, look up the word "Thunderdome" before posting in a thread with that in the title. And some friendly advice, when a mod warns you the hammer is about to drop, pay attention.
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15. study3600 said: ↑
I swear, God, these people think I know nothing.
Like we've covered, we base many of our conclusions on the evidence available.
study3600 said: ↑
Atheists oft call them mindworms but believers call true mindworms the lies of satan, and I speak the truth of God.
No idea what you mean by mindworm (I don't recall ever hearing that term), but that's exactly what an agent of Satan woud say. And an agent of Satan would have the same level or proof that you have, too.
And you say you want people to think, but then as soon as people started thinking things you didn't like, you got quite irate. You're not behaving as someone who wants people to think would behave, you're behaving as someone who wants people to agree with them would. Someone who wants people to think for themselves would appreciate people questioning what evidence is being alluded to if it hasn't been presented, not get hostile about it.
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16. I think mind worms were in a pretty good arc in season two of TCW.
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17. If you don’t care whether or not I believe, then quit trying to convince me. You’re going to fail regardless, and I’d rather you not make a fool out of yourself.
You go right ahead and keep telling yourself that my nonbelief will have some sort of consequence for me. Keep on believing that until the day you (or I) die if you like. It won’t make one bit of difference. You can threaten me with every hell you can imagine, and I still won’t believe, because I don’t respond to threats. I need evidence to believe, evidence which you are either unable or unwilling to provide. At this point, there’s no practical distinction between the two.
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
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And BTW, I studied and studied the Qu'ran for hours.
For hours.
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19. I swear to the god I don’t believe in, I think each Christian proselytizer thinks they’re the very first person to present Christian beliefs to atheists. They think to themselves “well the only reason they’re atheists is because they haven’t heard what I have to say yet!”
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
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20. Which is particularly rich given that a very large portion of atheists had a religious upbringing.
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21. I have never believed in any god, and I have never prayed to one. That’s not the result of a hardened heart. Even as a small child, I didn’t believe. I never believed in Santa Claus, either, I knew it was simply my family that was providing me with presents (lol they didn’t hide it all that well). I knew god was a similar fiction.
I had even less exposure to religion than Ken’s kids. I’ve never been inside a church, never been exposed to a religious sermon that I can remember. I don’t even know what Passover is. I just looked it up to see, as I’ve looked it up a hundred times before, and I’m sure I’ll have forgotten within the week, because I’m just not interested in remembering.
To say that there are no atheists is just ignorance of so many people in this world. It’s a lack of exposure to people like me, not to mention many millions of Buddhists who don’t believe in a creator god, obviously don’t pray to one, and don’t seek to be saved by one or believe that it is possible to be saved by one. Not only are they atheists, but they come from an ancient culture of atheists, so they lack that ingrained belief in a god that can result from growing up in a culture/society that is largely made up of theists.
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22. What, Lowbacca, you've NEVER studied Richard Dawkin's? He's like one of the go-to guys for a lot of atheistic belief. You guys are right. I shouldn't try to force any belief down your throats. Let's turn this hot debate into a pleasant conversation. I said it at least three times before and I think someone or ones also did. Debate is both fruitless and pointless. It gets no one anywhere. I can't convince you of squat. You can't convince me of squat, nor are you trying to , nor would you gain anything if you did. But we can learn from eachother. You all come from different educational/job/life, etc backgrounds. A wise woman or man (I forgot where I heard this, maybe I read it somewhere, that everyone has something to teach and everyone has something to learn. I can learn just as much from an atheist as I can from a Believer in certain cases. Or an agnostic, or Ba'hai, or satanist (I once learned a ton from one satanist internet acquaintance and one satanist friend) I find that I';m the only Believer on this thread who comes on here like I'm all that and a bag of chips (and trust me, I'm not) and tries to convince everyone of the things I have learned in my experience, and you're right, sometimes I don't listen well. So let's try to learn from eachother all of us, setting aside our belief or lack of belief in any gods.
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23. Lowbacca_1977 said: ↑
Which is particularly rich given that a very large portion of atheists had a religious upbringing.
True story:
Hey, Jedi Merkurian: Side note: Your sig is dead on.
BTW, I'm curious about something you said earlier and I realize I may be taking you completely out of context, but it seemed to me like you said that the Bah'ai have no real religious texts yet you keep quoting what I think are Ba'hai religious texts plus the very accurate quote in your sig. Could you, please enlighten me on what you meant by that statement if me and @rogue1-and-a-half understood you correctly, or not, so we can understand, because we were both a little confused on that point.
And if you already answered Rogue, please refer me to the page on which you answerd him because there's a lot of pages.
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Their interpretation of what the bible teaches about modesty and shamefacedness. IMO, they tend to take it to the extreme.
Painting people with broad strokes again? lol
If you end up killing me in a voodoo ritual and raping my corpse, please at least keep my pickled head in a jar as a memento.
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What, Lowbacca, you've NEVER studied Richard Dawkin's? He's like one of the go-to guys for a lot of atheistic belief.
1. Why on earth would I 'study' Richard Dawkins on this?
2. I'm having trouble finding links between Richard Dawkins and the term 'mindworm', which doesn't preclude them from existing, but certainly suggests they aren't prominent, at least.
3. Atheism isn't a belief, it's a lack of a belief. So comments about 'atheistic belief' in the context of Dawkins is missing the point still.
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3. @harpua LOL, man you got me there, a LOT of Roman Catholics, definitely not ALL of them.
@lowbacca_1977 , you're right, I meant belief in the very fact that there is no gods to speak of not belief in anything.
And I know, I know, you don't refer to this as a belief so I didn't mean to offend you by the phrase, it's just the way I commonly refer to it when I discusss nonbelief with fellow believers, I meant no offense nor am I trying to push any belief or faith on you.
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4. Pretty sure I've already posted this in this thread, but as you can see from the picture, I was essentially raised Catholic. My parents are atheists, but my grandmother insisted I learn about religion. So, I did all of it, over the years, and was confirmed. By that time, I decided I was finished. My grandmother was fine with my decision. I think she was just glad I finished that process.
I haven't found a religion that does it for me, and there's a chance I wont, which I am okay with. I am perfectly content with the state of my soul, the way it is.
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5. Well, that's your right and there isn't a god anywhere who can take away your Divine right to be content with the state of your soul. I was raised essentially Community of Christ but converted to the RLDS by baptism and Confimation at age 22.
Well, 2003 is when my conversion began. I wasn't baptized and confirmed until 2005. I didn't even become a True Believer until October of 2019.
Which probably explains my spiritual immaturaty and whininess and need to be right all the time, which is not a need at all but basically pride. This thread, I have to say, really shaped me and changed my heart, made me examine my own pushiness. It's safe to say I was converted by atheists, agnostics and some True Believers with hearts of Gold. So thank you all. My own pushiness often gets me in so much trouble. People are turned off, driven away, which you guys endeavored to show me how rude and cold and pushy and ram-it-down-your-throat-dity I was being. I apologize for my pride, but recall none of the truths I know, but I could have chosen not to try to convince you all that I was right and you were wrong because I was probably wrong about one or two things or more back then, after all "In the multitude of words, there wanteth not sin" and I obviously sinned when I was complaining about the rules but some of my other sins were probably way more subtle. And just so you know, most of you nonbelievers have hearts of gold too. Probably everyone on this board. Everyone has some good in them.
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6. study3600 said: ↑
@lowbacca_1977 , you're right, I meant belief in the very fact that there is no gods to speak of not belief in anything.
And I know, I know, you don't refer to this as a belief so I didn't mean to offend you by the phrase, it's just the way I commonly refer to it when I discusss nonbelief with fellow believers, I meant no offense nor am I trying to push any belief or faith on you.
You're wrong if you're calling it a belief when you are discussing it and we don't hear it, also, then. That's a point you seem to not be taking in even though it's been pointed out several times. There is a critical difference, in terms of the logical construction behind them, between "belief that there are no gods" and "lack of a belief in gods". In practice they function the same way, but the two are not interchangable.
So it is, very simply, wrong to say that I "believe that there are no gods". You aren't listening to that.
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7. Dawkins isn’t the pope of atheism. Nor are Dillahunty, Hitchens, Harris, Hawking, Aron Ra, or anyone else you can name. There is no hierarchy in atheism. The reason we don’t believe is because we genuinely are not convinced.
The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
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8. Points taken.
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Points taken.
@point Given
No symbols can describe this fracture that I feel
I'm the enemy in the end; a victim among your friends
You still want to see some worth hidden inside of me
Don't fool yourself again; you were my victim not my friend
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10. Side note: Interesting poem in your thread there, Lord Vivec, it resonates with me.
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Side note: Interesting poem in your thread there, Lord Vivec, it resonates with me.
They're lyrics from a band that's got rather satanic album covers and it's names after a thing in the brain that makes humans susceptible to believing a god exists....
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No symbols can describe this fracture that I feel
I'm the enemy in the end; a victim among your friends
You still want to see some worth hidden inside of me
Don't fool yourself again; you were my victim not my friend
Lord Vivec, 54 minutes agoReport
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1. Serious questions:
If heaven exists and people in heaven can eat food and drink does that mean they have to go to the bathroom and if so does that mean there's plumbing in heaven or can heaven folks go to the bathroom anywhere they want without consequence?
Do people have to wash their hands after peeing and dumping in heaven? If so, why?
Again is there a law in heaven about taking a wiz in public? This could be important.
Can the plumbing get clogged in heaven?
Are there plungers in heaven?
Can I call a plumber in heaven or will the clog be magically fixed? How long would I have to wait around for a plumber to show up in heaven? Do I have to wait around or will the plumber let him or herself in? If we're in heaven I don't have to worry about the plumber stealing any of my stuff and i won't have to talk them about the bill so why would I need to be there when they're fixing the clog? Who are these plumbers? Who would want to be a plumber in the afterlife?
If the clog is magically fixed why not make it so people magically don't have to poop or pee?
If people don't have to poop or pee in heaven will that do a psychological number on them?
Isn't it a relief taking a big dump after a big meal or taking a massive wiz after a lot of drinking? Wouldn't people want to experience that kind of relief and satisfaction in heaven?
If there's plumbing in heaven where does all the waste empty out to and who is maintaining the waste removal?
Does all the waste magically disappear once it's flushed?
Do bathrooms in heaven get smelly and if so do people us air fresheners?
Do people light a candle after going to the bathroom in heaven?
Where does toilet paper come from in heaven and is it all White Cloud?
Is the toilet paper divinely supplied or do souls in heaven have to shop for toilet paper or do they just think "I need toilet paper" and poof! it appears?
Is there ever a line for the bathroom in heaven or do restaurants in heaven have individual bathrooms for everybody in the restaurant so nobody has to wait?
Is the toilet seat aways magically up or magically down when one enters the bathroom depending on who's using it because that would be pretty cool!
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Oh lord...that’s what they’re doing?
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2. Based upon my draw of experience, toilets exist in telestial glory and so do porno theaters because people are still filthy there, still in need of repentance. Not sure about plumbing. As they progress to Terrrestrial, the Glory of the Moon, toilets disappear but people still live in unbelief, still in need of progression. If they read the right books and ask the right questions, as they rise to the first level of celestial glory everytone there believes in the full gospel, but can still progress further to the third level of celestial, or the glory of the sun (as the sun is typical of it comparing sun to moon to stars (telestial). There is no falling from grace anymore from Level three to all the way up and up and up to all the endless glories and realms beyond. Like in the game Sorry, the first two levels of Celestial, and all of telestial and terestial are the safety zone. It only takes one backwards four or backwards one to be on the board again, in danger. The Third Level of Celestial and beyond is Home and Safe, like home plate in baseball.
And in answer to your what feels good question, some beautiful but nonsex u al feelings in the heavens are better than sex or urination or defecation, especially between marrieds.
Source material: Personal experience of visiting the heavens, Return From Tomorrow by George Ritchie, RLDS and LDS Section 76, The Sermons of Joseph Smith, The Joseph Smith Papers Project, though I got it from the now taken down site Woodland Institute and a section solely in the LDS Doctrine and Covenants.
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The longer I have been an atheist, the more amazed I am that I ever believed Christian notions.
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Well, to be honest, they are pretty valid questions most people speculate about at some point in their lives especially given that Jesus Christ himself went to the bathroom during his life. I give the man props for being bold enough to ask the hard-hitting questions.
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Side note.... why do Catholics dress little girls up like brides?
If you end up killing me in a voodoo ritual and raping my corpse, please at least keep my pickled head in a jar as a memento.
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25. Their interpretation of what the bible teaches about modesty and shamefacedness. IMO, they tend to take it to the extreme.
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Jedi Merkurian: 26. study3600 said: ↑
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"Know thou that every fixed star hath its own planets, and every planet its own creatures, whose number no man can compute."
-Baha'i Scripture
The Force Awakens, Alan Dean Foster, from the 15 minute mark to the two hour and 37 minute mark.
As my Barber, a Conservative Trump supporter, cut my hair, I said, Putin is evil. He agreed.
A man before the CPAC speech of Trump's today in the LIVE CHAT, whom I will name, said: Jackie Haigh said:
Putin thought he had done enough to divide America and divide Europe. Bigly mistake.
O Lord, please help Dad to see the light. Amen.
Answered Prayers:
*Yesterday I prayed specifically for money for snacks, money for my math book and money to pay my library fine and money for my haircut.
It took me two days and God gave me all this through my payee in addition to money for a good sit down meal at a dine in restaurant and the assurance I would soon get my SSB external drive, and groceries, and assurance I'd get more groceries not to mention stock up on water for my house and get Community Service League food help. God did above and beyond what I asked or thought, and Monday I may finally get my taxes done, which Paul and Jesus commanded us so to do.
*I prayed for a dream in which I was married to Maggie after waking up from a dream where she and I were mean to each other, and on that same night I had another dream where we had been married for a while.
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2:53 AM
Satan sicked the Goblin King on me, and in his realm in my minds' eye, I nearly fell for his wiles, and I had nearly gotten to the Goblin's castle, when I suddenly turned on my captors and defeated them with a weapon my spirit was given in a videogame early in my life, then back on the surface God told me that seeing the movie The Labyrinth had prepared me for what I experienced and helped me to survive it, that I was the third who had, and the fifth who had survived the Realm of the Dead. Many after me survived it, whom the witch-prophet on YouTube talked to together with me, and I've been there briefly twice since. The Realm of the Goblin King and being visited by him to receive the keys to that realm is a once-in-a-lifetime event, and I wreaked havoc there, as well as in the Realm of the Dead.
After that a demon or other entity at my door, and after that, Junk_bow again, which is why I got up and started watching A Beautiful Mind (2001) and typing my journal.
"In competitive behavior, someone always loses. If I could derive an equilibrium where prevalence is a non-singular event, where nobody loses, can you imagine the effect that that would have on conflict scenarios and arms negotiations and currency exchange?" Yes, that would be like heaven. But on this earth, people need conflict to survive or they will stagnate, atrophy and die out. In heaven, conditions are different than they are here, and problem-free living is possible and the norm.
Cognitive reverie.
Do the odds of success dramatically improve with each attempt?
Does individual dreams, goals, ambition, aspiration, serve the common good?
Free Market Capitalism + G.K. Chesterton's Distributism (not to be confused with wealth redistribution)=?
"The best result would come from everyone doing what's best for himself and the group."
I am also allowed to watch news.
That statement of Nash's flew in the face of 150 years of Economic theory.
The day before yesterday, Joy was able to get her printer online and working to print out my Utility bill for tax info, after she switched to T-Mobile Internet.
"In multivariable Calculus, there is often more than one solution to any given problem."-Nash
"Man is capable of as much atrocity as he has imagination."-Big Brother
God is capable of all the good that he literally is, only limited by Man's agency on earths.
"God must be a painter. Why else would we have so many colors?"-"Miss".
I think I'll just listen to this movie for the time being.
One time during a long car trip with my dad, I counted diesel trucks on the highway. I made it to 2,000.
He cracked the code, sealed it with a wax seal, and marked it 'CLASSIFIED'. Alright! (God told me, you can look now, now it sounds like I can't again.)
I'm getting up to get something to eat. The mushy love scene is over. I'll pause the film.
I got a can of Albacore Solid White tuna mixed with stone ground dijon mustard and GV Mayo, and updated my Learn And Study Hebrew group on MeWe.
I gave the link to my Mara/Luke4ever website to my dad.
We're at the part of John Nash's heroes' journey where the bottom just seems to drop out from beneath him and all hope seems lost, or will be there shortly.
I was listening to Bible Radio, but the music disturbed me. It was just off somehow, which woke me up. After I went back to sleep, The Goblin King's visit to my room and the other things at the head of this entry kept me up, so I got up.
I'm going down to Casey's to get me an xtra large Dr. Pepper if'n dey've fix-ed dere pop machine b'now. Bye!
On Monday I should do three things: 1. Get my taxes done.
2. Go to the Community Services League for food help
and
3. Take back my 13 library books, of which I only read and will read (or listen to), 3, at least for now.
Wednesday I should be filling out my intake paperwork for BFMA with Taylor Brady here at my apartment.
I'll go get my soda now. If'n no fountain drinks are available, I'll get a 20oz Dr. Pepper+Creme soda.
I really like Grammarly. Bye!
5:53 AM Back from Casey's. Got a warm Dr. Pepper from the fountain, for the ice machine was down.
Watched most of The Bad Batch Season 1 Episode 3 on fast32 on my phone on my way to, in and from the store.
Yesterday I posted a little more of the Corpus Hermeticum on my Mara/Luke site.
6:17 AM Watched the rest of The Bad Batch 1X3.
The Shroud of Turin, Ian Wilson, Introduction, p. 3
7:35 AM I had a good nap; got some shut-eye.
When I get my SSB Drive, I'm also planning on getting a chemistry set that day, and making the cubby hole beneath my bookshelves into a pet bed and putting a cat tower between my living room light switch and my light sconce, because there's room for it there, and storing my chemistry set between my games and two bike helmets up on the shelf above the clothes hanging in my bedroom closet, which I vacated, putting the books bags and papers up there in a crate, which books I intend to transfer to more shelves I plan on getting. I give God all the glory for helping me thus to plan.
I'm up now. I need to go to church soon. I think Ima go early. Hopefully, I can spend time with Colt today.
6:18 PM I did not actually end up going to church today. I stayed home, wrote some of The Annie Wilkes Story after watching a Theory Guy video, then read a chapter of the Bible, then ate.
Colt and I never spent time together today.
Today I watched Episodes 4 & 5 of Season 1 of The Bad Batch
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4:36 PM I finally got my taxes done at the tax place. Now all that needs to happen is that they need to be processed and Joy needs to pay the 50.00 fee, then I'll get the blessing-the tax return. It should really help me this year.
Black House Disc 10-12
Genesis 2
Words of Moroni 1:20-23
Yesterday I read Genesis 1.
By convenience, both I, Colt and Rick happened to stay home from Pastor Pete's church Sunday. This alarmed me so much that I questioned Pastor Pete tonight, late, over the phone and he said that someone unfamiliar had arrived late and left early. He was midddle-aged-gray hair, not tall, and wore no sunglasses. The odd thing was that I was prompted to ask Pete if anyone new had come in that Sunday and it just so happened that someone had.
I am visiting Rick. He gave me a brand-new legal pad to write in.
Christianity is the best explanation of the way things are.-
Greg Koukl.